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post #256 of 4102 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 03:51 PM
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So did Tsonga - used to have 4-1 over Nole, but since then he won just one match and lost eight. Things change
Tsonga is a mug from Nole's generation thus becoming non-comparable with the GOD (Federer) and his Demi-gods (Roddick,Nalbandian,Safin,Davydenko and so on...)

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Tsonga is a mug from Nole's generation thus becoming non-comparable with the GOD (Federer) and his Demi-gods (Roddick,Nalbandian,Safin,Davydenko and so on...)
Tsonga is two years older than Nole, not to mention he was in a slam final, something your bald demi-god was never able to do

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Tsonga is two years older than Nole, not to mention he was in a slam final, something your bald demi-god was never able to do
Yea that's why Davydenko spanks Clownmug badly and Tsonga approved himself that Davydenko is the hardest player to play against for him !

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The answer is no, Federer is better than them. His 2004-2007 level will probably never be matched in terms of how consistently great he was, it always took something monumental to take him out or even push him at Slams. He most definitely raised the bar in ways never seen before.

Both Nadal and Djokovic in their peak years would likely dominate Federer's era too (although it's impossible to say for sure), but never to the extent Federer did, which is quite unique in history.
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Yea that's why Davydenko spanks Clownmug badly and Tsonga approved himself that Davydenko is the hardest player to play against for him !
Tsonga is always threat to top players, while Denko has very good chance to become Fed's ostrich

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The courts were a lot faster in Fed's prime years than they are now and those two guys are slow court players. They are not going to be dominating- Nadal would remain RG king and Djoker could win hard court slams but that's it. Are we actually removing Fed from the whole era when we debate this or?

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The courts were a lot faster in Fed's prime years than they are now and those two guys are slow court players. They are not going to be dominating- Nadal would remain RG king and Djoker could win hard court slams but that's it. Are we actually removing Fed from the whole era when we debate this or?
The debate must be only one of the three, surely. If they had to compete against each other that would be something else.

One interesting matchup would be prime Nadal against teen Nadal on clay. Teen Nadal would have to be there for things to be equal.
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Tsonga is always threat to top players, while Denko has very good chance to become Fed's ostrich
Yes Tsonga is a threat to top players i agree ... but Davydenko was not only threat he was beating them around 40% of the times!

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Both Nadal and Djokovic in their peak years would likely dominate Federer's era too (although it's impossible to say for sure), but never to the extent Federer did, which is quite unique in history.

There's no way to know that for sure. You're speculating

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Shocking to see se7en with no ability to type in the search box.
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Your useless repetitive opjnion is not needed here.
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There's no way to know that for sure. You're speculating
What bias and hypocrisy. You can admit to that but you sure seem certain how shitty Federer is and how his titles are worth less than others. Serve up more excuses please.

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There's no way to know that for sure. You're speculating
Just like it would be speculating to say that Nadal would win the US Open if he were to have played in the 90s instead.
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Whether you like him or not, Nadal still didn't choke away 2 match points in 2 US Open matches against his nemesis.

He didn't need walkovers and ubiquitous losers in finals like Federer did. Nadal didn't need easy draws to win because he beat his nemesis to win the US Open on 1 of his least favorite surfaces.
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many tards always talking about that federer it`s a champion of a weak generation or transitional generation , and that in 2008 when the raise of nadal and djokovic , murray and delpo too , the changes are different , but it`s true that federer peak years were 2004-2007.

this number don`t lie:

Federer: 5 GS, 2 MC, 7 M1000, 9 ATP 500 y 250 , 5 times runner-up in slam finals and one time runner-up in masters cup incluiding one olympic silver medal and doubles gold medal..... this are the number of federer , a guy outside his peak years and beggining his decandece and facing a new and younger generation , numbers very similar to many legends of tennis.

Nadal: 8 GS, 0 MC, 12 M1000, 5 ATP 500 y 250 , 1 gold medal. the king of his generation , superior than federer but a very very big difference....

Djokovic: 5 GS, 2 MC, 11 M1000, 9 ATP 500 y 250 , 1 bronze medal , 4 times runner-un in slam finals.... numbers very very similars by now....the only difference are 4 masters1000 , the best second player of this generation and much more younger has similars archivements than an older and transitional era champion or weak era champion.....

Murray: 1 GS, 0 MC, 8 M1000, 11 ATP 500 y 250 , 1 gold medal. Murray it`s no even close........

delpo too it`s not even close.

federer keeps winning all the years at least 1 grand slam since 2003 , with the only exception of 2011 , but he played one final and two semis winning that year the masters cup again and was the only guy that was capable to fought against nole 2.0 in the slams because the other guys were destroyed by the serbian that year.

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