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post #211 of 3984 (permalink) Old 10-17-2012, 03:16 AM
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Re: if sampras would play in this era....

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Re: What kind of career would Nadal have in the 90's?

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Nadal wouldn't do that great in the 90s because of:

-Stronger clay court competition
-Faster Hard and grass courts
-RACKET TECHNOLOGY


As well pointed out, Federer wouldn't be that affected by different eras, because his game is complete and sublime.
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My thread wasn't an era debate. It was about players. Dunno why it was moved here.
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I wish Mod actions could be more accountable, so we can at least know who does these silly decisions.
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Yeah I don't think this was a great decision for the forum. Personally I think that era stuff is mostly BS. I have no interest in this thread. The era thing in my sig is just to annoy Trollspindoctor.
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Agassi is essentially a much better version of Davydenko without the slam-shitty-pants syndrome, & he had his best results on slower hard courts of the kind that proliferate today. He would do very well in this era. Sampras's game would be less suited to today's courts, but he would adapt to some extent. During his peak he was never an out-&-out serve-volleyer off grass and regularly outplayed the best baseliners in the game from the baseline.

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Re: What kind of career would Nadal have in the 90's?

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Sampras's wins were close and all came when Hewitt was still a teenager. After Hewitt peaked, he owned Pete relatively easily including a Slam final.

Besides, Nadal is on a completely different level, especially when it comes to rallies. There's no reason to believe he'd not own Sampras's BH even harder than he does Federer's.

There is just one reason to believe. That is if we all were to believe a Self proclaimed Internet Nostradamus.

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Sampras and Agassi both in this era would simply make this era incredibly tough. I see no reason why both of them wouldn't do well though. Sampras played extended rallies with the best of 'em in the middle of his career and came out on top often. His forehand was phenomenal, especially on the run (of course), and his backhand, whilst quite an ugly shot, tended to hold up okay on faster surfaces. I think Sampras would have a positive H2H with Djokovic especially because he would enjoy using the Serb's cross court pace to come to net DTL (something Federer still does well against Djokovic but which Sampras was the master of). Nadal would obviously not be losing to Sampras on clay but off it this would be a very intriguing match up (and one which I really don't have much of an idea about how it would go). I know a lot of people think Murray's variety and control would be good against Sampras but I actually disagree here. Murray would let Sampras dictate too much, and lets not forget Pete has pretty outrageous skills at net. IMO, Murray would not have a good chance at all of beating Sampras at Wimbledon or the US Open. To me, Nadal would have better hopes because he has proved that, regardless of his supposed limitations as an attacking force, he can hold serve over and over and over again when he has to (and is playing well) with his swing serve and forehand dictating the game.

Agassi at his best could play some spectacular matches against Nadal, Djokovic and Murray. I see no reason why he couldn't win matches against all of them (not that he wouldn't lose as well).

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Nadal wouldn't do that great in the 90s because of:

-Stronger clay court competition
-Faster Hard and grass courts
-RACKET TECHNOLOGY


As well pointed out, Federer wouldn't be that affected by different eras, because his game is complete and sublime.
nadal would be the king of clay anyway but maybe not like now , he competition on clay was more hard
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nadal would be the king of clay anyway but maybe not like now , he competition on clay was more hard
Yeah, he would have won maybe 5 or 6 out of 8 RG instead of 7/8. Not less, though.
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if agassi and sampras played in this era the courts wouldn't have been slowed down in the first place. at least not to this extent.
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think Sampras would have a positive H2H with Djokovic especially because he would enjoy using the Serb's cross court pace to come to net DTL (something Federer still does well against Djokovic but which Sampras was the master of).
I believe the opposite. I think this match up would go pretty badly for Sampras. I'm thinking it'll be a little similar to Hewitt vs Sampras but Djokovic is a better version of Hewitt.
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With a 31 year old very-past-his-prime Federer dominating and winning Slams at the same time in which there's a peak Djokovic and a very strong Nadal, who sweeped the red clay season like he usually does, and with a guy like Mónaco reaching the top 10, you've got to wonder about this.

Those are only a few examples and I'm sure others have consider this possibility as well. This didn't happen in a vacuum of course. In fact, there might be some truth to the experts' talk that tennis has been getting progressively more physical over time, and thus with less talent required to actually play.

What do you think?
First of all, Roger who just turned 31, is not well past his prime. He is not at his very best as consistantly as he was a few years ago, however, he is still a great player who due to his talent and game style has the body and stamina of a 25 Year old player. This was true of Rosewall, Gonzalez, Laver, Connors, Agassi, and to a lesser degree Sampras. As shown in the Shanghi final, Murray and Novak are capable of extraordinary shot making, defending and variety of game. They are probably at their physical peak now, but need to be very creful of ther scheduling and learn to shorten points by becoming better volleyers and using their one handed backhands more often as they did last week. Nadal, when healthy, is difficult for anyone to beat on any surface. Rafa had not been at his best since the AO final, even on clay. He seems to have very serious physical problems and, IMO, will not be as great a player as he was in the past. I do hope I am wrong about this, time will tell. I think Novak, Andy and Roger will probably be the top players again next year if they stay healthy. This is an great time for men's tennis, with four great players capable of winning slams and the other most important tournaments.
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