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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2012 year-end H2H?
Djokovic will take the lead 31 50.82%
Federer will claim his trophy 25 40.98%
They will end in a draw, for the first time 1 1.64%
I don't know. But this should be an official ATP award, it's amazing. 4 6.56%
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post #46 of 1201 (permalink) Old 07-29-2012, 09:21 AM
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Re: Federer 2012 > Djokovic 2012?

At least wait until the US Open is over.. The indoor season of course matters, but the US Open swing matters much more when comparing these things.

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I think they are pretty even, the only difference between them is that Federer has faced his slaves that has no hope or confidence that they can beat Federer. Uhmm Youzhny Uhmm del Potro Uhmm Berdych Uhmm Ferrer Uhmm Malisse.
What would make you happy? Face Djokovic and Nadal only every round? I mean seriously, aside from Djokovic and Nadal, everyone is technically his "slave" and even then, he had to beat Novak at Wimbledon and Rafa at Indian Wells..

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I think they are pretty even, the only difference between them is that Federer has faced his slaves that has no hope or confidence that they can beat Federer. Uhmm Youzhny Uhmm del Potro Uhmm Berdych Uhmm Ferrer Uhmm Malisse.
That's because everyone but the top 4 is Federer's slave
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I think they are pretty even, the only difference between them is that Federer has faced his slaves that has no hope or confidence that they can beat Federer. Uhmm Youzhny Uhmm del Potro Uhmm Berdych Uhmm Ferrer Uhmm Malisse.
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Olympics, USO and WTF will determine it.
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As far as I know the season is not over yey. Djokovic usually performs on the highest level during the HC swing in North America.
If Djokovic wins US Open, he will eclipse Federer not matter what happens later.
Nothing will eclipse Federer becoming number 1 and winning his 17th GS title!
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Re: Federer 2012 > Djokovic 2012?

We will see by the end of the year, won't we.

/thread.

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Nadal is by far the most naturally talented player of all time and that is the reason his stay at the top is a lot longer than players like Federer etc were able to do.
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Re: Federer 2012 > Djokovic 2012?

i think the longevity is the last box that fed needed to tick to be goat

nole's 2012 hasn't been that bad actually

for a well past his prime fed to dominate in this era shows how weak nadal and noles eras were

and maybe how strong federer's 2003-2006 was

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Re: Federer 2012 > Djokovic 2012?

31 years old Roger Federer > 25 years old Djokovic

I fully agree with it

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We will see by the end of the year, won't we.

/thread.
But it's not just about this year is it? If we go back until after the USO last year, Roger has won 8/15 events played. Djokovic has won 2/12. Their slam results has been pretty much the same since then. And as a previous poster showed the stats favor Roger as well. I think we can already conclude that Fed is the better player, even though the thread title is about 2012. Now of course if Djoke wins the USO that can change things. Djokovic clearly needs that title badly if he has any chance of having a better 2012 than Roger. If we look at just 2012 Djoke has won 2/9 and Roger 5/12. Remember it's not JUST about the slams. Other events come into play as well if the slam results are very close.
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Re: Federer 2012 > Djokovic 2012?

Yep. Federer 2012 > Djokovic 2012 (so far).
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31 years old Roger Federer > 25 years old Djokovic

I fully agree with it
I think this is true as well Empire.
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Yes in rankings. They are equal in achievements this year, both won one important match ag. each other at slams, Novak crushed Fed at RG although not in convincing form and vice versa at Wimbly with the difference of Federer not having real opposition in final. Had Novak played same number of tournaments as Fed did, he'd be still No.1 by this time. However USO will decide who is better this year in their second final I hope.
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Bit of a myth this one.

He is very strong during the US HC swing, but other than 2007 I can't think of a season where it's been the strongest part of his year.
hm, not sure I understand this ...
2007 Novak won in Montreal, lost in R2 at Cincy, runner up at the USO
2011 Novak won in Canada, runner up at Cincy, won the USO.
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Yes in rankings. They are equal in achievements this year, both won one important match ag. each other at slams, Novak crushed Fed at RG although not in convincing form and vice versa at Wimbly with the difference of Federer not having real opposition in final. Had Novak played same number of tournaments as Fed did, he'd be still No.1 by this time. However USO will decide who is better this year in their second final I hope.
Fed was never into the FO. He didn't wana lose to Nadull in another FO final, so he let Djoke do the honors. At Wimby he brough his A game and so did Djoke, and the result followed.
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Fed was never into the FO. He didn't wana lose to Nadull in another FO final, so he let Djoke do the honors. At Wimby he brough his A game and so did Djoke, and the result followed.
Honestly, with all respect to you, you really strike me as one of the biggest glory hunters on this board. I have seen hundreds of Fed's matches, he always fights. Fed is a born fighter (same with Nole and Nadal). There is a good reason he won 17 slams. Fed played his heart out back in 2011 at RG and managed to def. Djokovic. Yet, a year later at RG, he didn't want to lose to Nadal again so he lost to Nole??? Are you freaking kidding me? Are you out of your mind? completely illogical.

I'm really sorry to tell you this, but please try to be more objective and less blind. There are many good/objective Fed fans on this board who I really respect. I'm afraid you are not one of them. All you post is Fed, Fed and Fed ... you will also twist facts just to feed your Fed obsession. You are pretty harmless, but so annoying at the same time (I don't really take you seriously), sorry ...

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