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They'll have their time. I hope Davy gets it.
I think Davydenko has withdrawn too.
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Re: Will Toronto be a washout? Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco & Monfils withdraw

Yes, it's official. Roger Federer has withdrawn from Toronto.

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Re: Will Toronto be a washout? Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco & Monfils withdraw

Gotta think that Djokovic will do his best to be there and defend his title, especially with so many players missing.

Or could he figure "if Fed's not there, I don't need to worry about defending teh points?"

But I'd think he'd at least go there and play a few matches, if not go all in to try to add some cushion going into Cincy.

But again, #1 and #2 are meaningless anyway.

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Re: Will Toronto be a washout? Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco & Monfils withdraw

If Djokovic skips Toronto it guarantees Fed #1 after USO and goes a long way in getting him towards the year-end #1. He needs to pretty much equal Djoko from Cinci to the end which seems very doable considering Fed's definitely the superior indoor player.
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Re: Will Toronto be a washout? Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco & Monfils withdraw

Smart that Federer pulled out.
His scheduling decisions are almost always really good.
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Re: Will Toronto be a washout? Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco & Monfils withdraw

No way is Djokovic playing Toronto.
Take a small rest, play Cincinnatti and start the US Open fresh.

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How can you believe that the world #2 and arguably the current best HC player is not a big favorite to defend his points in Toronto? It's not like Nole is a #60 ranked journeyman that would have a small chance at defending his Toronto title. At the very least he is a strong co-favorite.

With the race this year being so close, being unable to try and defend 1000 pts could make a huge difference. Although I want Fed to end year #1, I still want it to happen fairly and without putting other players at a disadvantage, especially one that could probably have been avoided..
There's no "defending" or even losing last year's points in the Race, in the Race you just cumulate points and that's all, that's what the end-of-year will be about.

Besides, I don't understand your point : do you think Djokovic would be more of a favorite comparing to Fed in Toronto than in Cinci and the US Open ?

I don't think it's different : Djokovic can get his points wherever he wants, in Cinci or Toronto, "defending" or not "defending", last year's points get lost anyway and then you try your best to get points this year in all of the tournaments in which you take part.

Concretely, if, as I thought already a few days ago, Djokovic takes part in Toronto and Fed not, the player who is likely to get more points in this year's US Open series is Djokovic.

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If Djokovic skips Toronto it guarantees Fed #1 after USO and goes a long way in getting him towards the year-end #1.
it would nearly (300 points difference) guarantee the number 1 for Fed after the US Open, but would say nothing about the year-end ranking, esp. if Djokovic wins the US Open.

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It's not like the ATP just discovered the Olympics were going to happen 4 or 5 months ago; they have been aware of the scheduling problem posed here for years. Surely, they could have planned some better scheduling arrangement than this.
And what ?

you talked about scheduling Toronto and Cinci one week later, which means Cinci the week before the US Open, and I tell you that I think it would have been worse.

What else could they have done ? nothing imo

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get the hell out of this event Nole

you need the rest (and some comfort on your sore booboo after Murray slapped you all ways )
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the vulture will play there trying to steal the #1 back
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it would nearly (300 points difference) guarantee the number 1 for Fed after the US Open, but would say nothing about the year-end ranking, esp. if Djokovic wins the US Open.
It would aid Federer a lot if we look at the rest of the field heading to Toronto; it's hard for me to see Djokovic beaten by a lower-ranked player on that surface and he could quite conmfortably gain 600-1000 points. IF he does not enter Toronto Fed's chances for year-end start to look good since he has 300-400 points in hand for Cincy, USO and indoor. Even if Djoko won USO I'd back Fed to make the difference in the indoor season based on the 2 previous years.
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Smart that Federer pulled out.
His scheduling decisions are almost always really good.
Mirka is a brilliant scheduler.
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