Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder? - MensTennisForums.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:09 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
branimir_iliev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 77
                     
Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Hi everyone. My first post/thread here in MTF, so I'll try to be brief.
I'm apprehensive about Federer playing both singles and doubles. I'm thinking he may have fooled himself in trying too hard to please his country and his doubles partner. Maybe he is afraid of disrespecting Wawrinka were he to have more strategically shirked this whole 'responsibility' ahead of time...

But this niceness could cost him in singles. He is almost 31 after all. This is where Federer gets a little infuriating sometimes - and I say this as a fan. He gets so cute and nice and Swiss-civilized sometimes, that it's like you want to slap him... gently, and for his own good of course.

Maybe he should have blown the whole doubles 'obligation' off. He risks burning out if and when he goes deeper in the singles draw. Wasn't gold in singles his main goal anyway? I don't know, your guys' thoughts?

Btw, pleased to be here and a pleasure to meet everyone!
branimir_iliev is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:13 AM
Registered User
 
viruzzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Posts: 5,352
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Good first post, mine was just something like "Go Tsonga!".

It's a big question mark right now... It's true that Roger's 30 years old right now, but it is also true that he has enough experience to know when to turn in his "God-Form".
ATM we can't say so much, it's just wednesday. But I think this will be an interesting point to be aware of.

Ah, appeal moderation? Wanna know what appeal moderation did to me?
LOOK AT ME!
LOOK AT ME, BOY! THESE ARE THE SCARS OF APPEAL MODERATION!
Take a good long stare, you know you want to.
You're not even man enough to look at my face.

Appeal moderation isn't pretty, you have to watch your friends go to dust.
Appeal moderation is always hungry for your soul and sweet emotions.


First and once godly-worhispped appeal moderator.
(Actually 2nd)
viruzzz is offline  
post #3 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:17 AM
Registered User
 
Chris Kuerten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Age: 26
Posts: 18,049
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Only will make a difference if he has a 20-18 match in doubles.

He'll just cut back the training hours.

I am the Nelson Mandela of MTF

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinoj View Post
Santaro was a better version of Ferrer
Quote:
At the end of Federer's first round match at the Australian Open a fawning interviewer asked about his kids and if he had bought coach Stefan Edberg a birthday present - no, by the way, the privilege of knocking up with 'King Roger' was enough of a present apparently.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...nnis/65231157/

Sombrerero loco exposed

(Again)
Chris Kuerten is offline  
post #4 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:34 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 26
Posts: 315
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Nope. It's not an error because the Olympics are not about his personal glory. It is about national pride and federer wants to make sure he can give as many medals as possible.
This way, he has a chance to have two gold medals. It doesn't matter if he wins the medal in singles or doubles ( contrary to what nadtards might say, Olympic medal isn't important in ATP).
Also, it's a short tournament and fatigue won't play much of a role. Serena won both singles and doubles in Wimbledon, which is a long tournament.
Excellent 1st thread btw, and welcome to the board.
Andy1402 is offline  
post #5 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:36 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,340
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

In Olympics the goal is trying to bring home a medal.It doesn`t really matter if it`s singles or doubles.As long as he is in both events the chances to get a medal increase.Also in these best of 3 sets things can go quickly.A couple of bad minutes and match is over.And by beeing in both events he feels he has 2 lives.If things go bad in one event he can try and bounce back in the next.
Sure it would be tough if he had to play finals in both events(best of 5) but then he will gladly take it as he is guaranteed 2 medals.
iriraz is offline  
post #6 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:36 AM
country flag HKz
Hakeem
 
HKz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mesa
Posts: 5,234
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Well, it could certainly be problematic, however, Federer doesn't play too many taxing points/games and doubles isn't too debilitating either, especially on grass. Either way, he is smart enough to cut back on outside physical activity in order to stay fresh for singles.

I think he'll be fine. If he loses in either singles or doubles, I sincerely doubt it will have anything to do with him playing both.

E: Getting gold in singles is certainly more important to him right now, but I'm sure he would rather have a medal in doubles than no medals at all.

Federer / Haas / Safin / Gaudio / Kuerten / Youzhny / Nadal / Gonzalez / Ljubicic / Hewitt / Soderling / Wawrinka / Coria / Nalbandian / Kohlschreiber
HKz is offline  
post #7 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:37 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,964
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy1402 View Post
Nope. It's not an error because the Olympics are not about his personal glory. It is about national pride and federer wants to make sure he can give as many medals as possible.
This way, he has a chance to have two gold medals. It doesn't matter if he wins the medal in singles or doubles ( contrary to what nadtards might say, Olympic medal isn't important in ATP).
Also, it's a short tournament and fatigue won't play much of a role. Serena won both singles and doubles in Wimbledon, which is a long tournament.
Excellent 1st thread btw, and welcome to the board.
HAHAHAHAHAHA

I am sure he wants to win singles medal much more than doubles medal

You can not be clear in mind if you doubt that.
outrider is offline  
post #8 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:44 AM
Registered User
 
mark73's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,040
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Doubles on grass is less tiring then a brisk walk. Mcenroe used to play doubles all the time as a substitute for practicing.

Federer: Future number one.

Fed vs Rafa

Wimbledon: 7-2
U.s open: 5-2
AO: 4-1
FO 1-9
WTF: 6-0
Weeks at number one: 302-140(about)

Really no contest
mark73 is offline  
post #9 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:47 AM
Registered User
 
BackhandDTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 25
Posts: 5,096
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

I think we have to consider the benefits of competing in Doubles.

It's a good way for him to keep his form on his off days. There's no substitution for match play; no form of practice can simulate the feeling of a real match. It's a great opportunity for Roger to sharpen his skills in a pressurized environment. It's important to consider, too, the emphasis on serve and volley in Doubles, and how this can help his grass game specifically (he could certainly use it after how poor his net game looked for most of Wimbledon).

Knowing that he has an event to fall back on should he fall out of one of the fields might even relieve some of the weight on his shoulders in Singles, and I'm sure he's lightened up his practice sessions to compensate for the added work load.
BackhandDTL is offline  
post #10 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:49 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 26
Posts: 315
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Quote:
Originally Posted by outrider View Post
HAHAHAHAHAHA

I am sure he wants to win singles medal much more than doubles medal

You can not be clear in mind if you doubt that.
I do doubt that. If this were a grand slam or an atp tournament, he would concentrate on the singles. But in the Olympics, a medal is what matters. It could come from the singles or doubles. If what you say is true, it would make no sense for federer to expend his energy in the doubles event at all.
Andy1402 is offline  
post #11 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 07:59 AM
Registered User
 
manadrainer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 2,214
                     
Well I am worried too. With this idiot scheduling they postponed two of his double matches, and now if he's to reach the final in both events he'll need to play two matches for three straight days.

It's unlikely since they have the bryans in the quarters but still...

8th day of July 2012: 7-time Wimbledon champion!

Once upon a time there was a myth about strong and weak eras. On this glorious day the clownery was eventually unmasked: 30 y.o. past-prime daddy Fed became #1 once again in the supposed strong "Spartan" era with his rivals at their peak.
And they all lived happily ever after.
Long live King Federer!


17 Grand Slam titles
7 Wimbledon titles
302 weeks at #1
Legend
manadrainer is offline  
post #12 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 08:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 25
Posts: 252
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

I think that they will have a good chance against the Bryan brothers since they beat them in the quarterfinals stay at the Beijing Olympics.
lleytonluver2005 is offline  
post #13 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 08:44 AM
Registered User
 
cardio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,150
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

They ( = top pros ) used to play singles + doubles ALL THE TIME on slams, some played even mixed doubles and went deep into draw. It meant 7 singles matches + 6 doubles matches, all in best of 5 format.

Playing singles only is last 20-year invention and now players get little taste of what was everyday life on tour for old school pros like Mac or Edberg.

Nothing new or heroic here, and I think everyone needs little backup chance if he fails in singles.
cardio is offline  
post #14 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 08:48 AM
Registered User
 
Looner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13,225
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Well, the good thing is that they face the top doubles team very early on (provided they win today) and so if they beat them their chance of getting gold will be quite high and they'll know it. If they lose, RF gets to focus on his singles quest.

I also think it may be a blessing in disguise if RF's a bit more tired after the Olympics as he'll then skip Toronto and focus on his bread and butter tournament in Cincy. Resting will be crucial for the USO.


The "Who plays tennis?" thread


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Rod Laver
Roger is like a good red wine, he’s getting better with age.
Looner is offline  
post #15 of 96 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 08:57 AM
Registered User
 
wfrw07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 31
Posts: 727
                     
Re: Federer playing doubles in Olympics a strategic blunder?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lleytonluver2005 View Post
I think that they will have a good chance against the Bryan brothers since they beat them in the quarterfinals stay at the Beijing Olympics.
Semis, not Quarters....just FYI
wfrw07 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome