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There have been a number of great players from this country over the years, del Potro, Monaco, Berlocq, and Nalbandian among the latest. You also have Mayer and Chela rounding out the top 100. Zeballos, Delbonis, and Schwank are also dangerous on any given day. Canas and Coria were some of my favorite players of the past. (Interestingly, Canas finished with a 3-3 record against Federer.)

But there's always this doping angle that some people use as a way of denigrating these players. What do you think? Is cheating rampant among these players? I don't think it is, and I'm not willing to condemn an entire country over some things invidual players did. So I don't hold this stuff against them, but I know a lot of people who do. But I think it's unfair.
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i'd like to talk but i've already received 2 bans for doping accusations and i'm afraid i'll get permabanned if i make my third

that's what censorship does to you

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There have been a number of great players from this country over the years, del Potro, Monaco, Berlocq, and Nalbandian among the latest. You also have Mayer and Chela rounding out the top 100. Zeballos, Delbonis, and Schwank are also dangerous on any given day. Canas and Corio were some of my favorite players of the past. (Interestingly, Canas finished with a 3-3 record against Federer.)

But there's always this doping angle that some people use as a way of denigrating these players. What do you think? Is cheating rampant among these players? I don't think it is, and I'm not willing to condemn an entire country over some things invidual players did. So I don't hold this stuff against them, but I know a lot of people who do. But I think it's unfair.
Listen, this is MTF. I see you just joined our beloved MTF. You'll learn. Many guys/gals come over here not to talk about tennis but to troll and release some frustration by insulting players, countries, other posters who disagree with them, you name it. I wouldn't worry too much about it. don't take it personally. There are many great players from Argentina who are very respected by true tennis fans on this board.
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Oh sorry, didn't know this is a bannable topic. I didn't name names, but I guess people know who they are. If need be I assume the moderator can delete the entry. This is what happens when you're a newbie.
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Coria, Nalbandian, Canas, Gaudio, Calleri was a great generation of players. You also had Zabaleta, Acasuso, the solid Chela, the underrated Franco Squillari and Lucas Arnold the doubles specialist. All this happened long before Del Potro's arrival.

Argentina should have won DC with this pool IMO.

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Listen, this is MTF. I see you just joined our beloved MTF. You'll learn. Many guys/gals come over here not to talk about tennis but to troll and release some frustration by insulting players, countries, you name it. I wouldn't worry too much about it. don't take it personally. There are many great players from Argentina who are very respected by true tennis fans on this board.
Thanks for the note. But I am so new to this forum I have not heard any of these accusations here. I have heard this throughout the years just being a fan of the sport. This sentiment comes especially from young players at the college level. I follow college tennis pretty closely because I'm affiliated with a university, and I always take the time to talk about tennis with these players. The sentiment is overwhelming, the way they focus on Argentinians. It's always struck me as odd.
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Thanks for the note. But I am so new to this forum I have not heard any of these accusations here. I have heard this throughout the years just being a fan of the sport. This sentiment comes especially from young players at the college level. I follow college tennis pretty closely because I'm affiliated with a university, and I always take the time to talk about tennis with these players. The sentiment is overwhelming, the way they focus on Argentinians. It's always struck me as odd.
when it comes to doping, most posts usually get deleted my mods, when some guys accuse 'a player X' of doping without any proof. but, trust me, there have been many threads/posts about doping.

you seem like a nice guy ... welcome to the board .
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i'd like to talk but i've already received 2 bans for doping accusations and i'm afraid i'll get permabanned if i make my third

that's what censorship does to you
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Coria, Nalbandian, Canas, Gaudio, Calleri was a great generation of players. You also had Zabaleta, Acasuso, the solid Chela, the underrated Franco Squillari and Lucas Arnold the doubles specialist. All this happened long before Del Potro's arrival.

Argentina should have won DC with this pool IMO.
Coria, Nalbandian, Canas and Gaudio would be a very strong 1 and 2 in singles and Calleri and Nalbandian (or Ker) good doubles but only on clay. Realistically they had between 2002 and 2005 to win as Coria was done by 2006, Canas was out, Gaudio was gone and Calleri was useless. Look at how Argentina were brutalised by Belarus on carpet in 2004. They were beaten comprehensively by Russia in 2002 on carpet and they were never going to be favourites against Spain in 2003 with Moya and Ferrero, though they didn't have a full strength team. The Spanish nearly actually cocked that up from what looked like complacency. And Slovakia trounced them in 2005. Too surface dependant.
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