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Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

Now that we've had a few weeks to digest the magnitude of the upset (and the haters have had enough time to dry themselves and get some new pants), I have to ask: Was this the greatest upset ever?

A player ranked 100 in the world, having lost first round in qualifying the previous 5 years, while Nadal was busy playing the Wimbledon final, beating said Nadal on the Centre Court?

Some may point to the Soderling upset at RG 09, but that was in the 4th round, Soderling was at least an established top 30 player, and betting wise, the odds were longer on Rosol. I am also reminded of 2005 USO, with Muller beating Roddick, but Muller was 68 in the world at the time, and Roddick was already showing signs of decline in 2005.

Maybe Karlovic def. defending champ Hewitt at Wimbledon 2003? Defending champ JCF losing 2nd round to Andreev at RG 2004? George Bastl def. Sampras at Wimbledon 2002?

My research will continue into the annals of tennis history, but I gotta say, was this the biggest upset in the history of the game?

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that dude who beat Becker 198? at Wimby

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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

By biggest upset in history, do you mean like a single match? Or would Edmondson's run to the AO title count?

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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

tommyg6 says yes, it was the biggest upset in tennis history. Rosol will always be a hero in my books. GOATsol!
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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

If it was on clay, yes it would be the biggest upset

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If it was on clay, yes it would be the biggest upset
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Nadal had always showed signs of vulnerability during the first week at wimbledon. This time Rosol kept God mode till the very end.

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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

i think a few of those would deserve equal
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karlovic was hilarious, he was a no one back then... hewitt was the champion...

not to mention bastl and the funniest is when you get to see current photos of bastl... (i mean, karlovic accomplished something with his career... so did andreev)

muller over roddick was great as well (was muller really 68 ATP ever? )... there was a big campaign around roddick in that year.
but after all, muller had that great junior career and he also beat rafito at wimbledon, and when it was completely unexpected and the guy was long time forgotten, he actually came back and snatched some decent wins on main tour

bastl and rosol make it top for me i guess since i have been watching tennis

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Becker lost in R1 of the 1987 wimbledon when he was the 2 time defending champion .Thats the biggest upset

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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

Bastl over Sampras and Doohan over Becker were bigger.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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doohan at least won some tournaments...

sampras on the other hand lost to this:


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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

I think it's pretty simple. The first question I ask is "What is the most dominant player on any particular surface".

The answer is clearly Nadal on clay, and RG just happens to be the clay slam. (slams are best of 5 so they automatically truncate any other tournament, perhaps except Best of 5 Masters Final and Davis Cup, but DC doesn't really count that much due to it's poor format, so yeah)

It has to be Soderling beating Nadal in 09.
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I think it's pretty simple. The first question I ask is "What is the most dominant player on any particular surface".

The answer is clearly Nadal on clay, and RG just happens to be the clay slam. (slams are best of 5 so they automatically truncate any other tournament, perhaps except Best of 5 Masters Final and Davis Cup, but DC doesn't really count that much due to it's poor format, so yeah)

It has to be Soderling beating Nadal in 09.
using your logic Sampras vs. Krajicek is equal

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Re: Was Rosol def. Nadal the biggest upset in tennis history?

Doohan was ranked 70 when he beat Becker, Bastl was ranked 145 when he beat Sampras, Karlovic was ranked 203!!!!!!!!

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Rosol def. Nadal
Soderling def. Nadal
Bastl def. Sampras
Doohan def. Becker
Ivanisevic's entire 2001 run
Muller def. Roddick
Mark Edmondson, ranked 212 in the world as he won AO '76, but a bit of a lesser field.

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Daniel Nestor was ranked #238 when he defeated then World No.1 Edberg in five sets 4-6, 6-3, 1-6, 6-3, 6-4 during the Davis Cup clash between Sweden and Canada in 1992. That was also pretty huge.

I'd say that's right up there as one of the biggest upsets in tennis history.

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using your logic Sampras vs. Krajicek is equal
Let me put it straight for you: Nadal's dominance and playing level on clay against any other player is much bigger than what everyone else has ever done on any other surface and at any other tournament. By quite a large margin.

Records are records, seeing the matches and acknowledging how far superior a player is on that surface against anyone else is what sticks to me.

Sampras was mentally tough and a great competitor. I always felt like he had it good with only one "Krajicek" episode.

Krajicek could play like a monster on a good day. That upset is a huge surprise only for people that only gawk at record sheets and statistics.
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