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Re: Most overrated shot (of the top players)

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I for one think Nadal's volleys are VASTLY overrated except his drop volleys probably.

I am not sure what else of the top players is overrated. Maybe Murray's serve. When it's on, it's really good but tbh it's very seldom on.

Some suggestions in the OP might be a good idea.
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Re: Most overrated shot (of the top players)

Federer - I don't know really
Djokovic - Return (vastly overrated)
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If you listened to Mark Petchey commentate, then you'd have to say Djokovic's volleys are overrated.
But that's just Petchey reeling off his learnt-by-rote lines.
Djokovic hits one volley, and immediately, Petchey chimes in with: "...and that's one area of his game which he really has improved, hasn't he? The forecourt..." etc.

What about Nadal's forehand? [/stirring the pot]
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Tsonga's net play, his approach shot is as overrated as sex on the beach.

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Federerīs between the legs shot honestly. People are talking about it like he invented it. Itīs actually very, letīs say, good looking but still...players used it before and even on GS matches, but they werenīt multiple GS winners so people didnīt talk about it that much...I donīt mean on this forum btw.
This. An average club player can do it. Of course the clean winner vs. Djokovic at this stage of the tournament and the match was special. But the shot itself is overrated. You don't need to be a genius to hit it.

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This. An average club player can do it. Of course the clean winner vs. Djokovic at this stage of the tournament and the match was special. But the shot itself is overrated. You don't need to be a genius to hit it.
Yeah, an average player can do it. That is why Benneteau hit his balls trying it.


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Yeah, an average player can do it. That is why Benneteau hit his balls trying it.


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Federerīs between the legs shot honestly. People are talking about it like he invented it. Itīs actually very, letīs say, good looking but still...players used it before and even on GS matches, but they werenīt multiple GS winners so people didnīt talk about it that much...I donīt mean on this forum btw.
I would be inclined to agree with you but something which still amazes me is that Fed has won many points with that, whereas I see other players doing it and not only is it far less good-looking but ... they never win the point.

The first time I saw a point won like that for long by another player than Federer was in Wimbledon by Del Potro against Nishikori.

By the way, I saw one from Dimitrov last week in Gstaad and his movement was really the same as Federer's : that flip, you know

Something else : my former idol, Yannick Noah, was quite the same as Fed : he was not the only one to do that (although less players did it in that time) but was the best-looking (less than Fed's though) and also he usually won the point thanks to that.

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imo it wasn't the tweener himself which makes it famous, it was because he did this shot at a gs-semifinal against djokovic and he had 3 mp's after this.
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agree with gasquet's backhand.

as a finishing shot it's absolutely spectacular, but his average cross court rallying shot isn't anything special.

look what happens when he comes up against a true GOAT contender backhand

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even watching ferrer v gasquet at the australian open. ferrer easily held his own in the backhand to backhand rallies and most people would agree ferrer has one of the worst backhands in the top 20.

federer's net game is overrated too. it may be technically excellent but he just doesn't spend enough time up there and therefore makes too many stupid errors when he does.
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Controversial one: Nadal's forehand.
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It's always hard to speak of "overrated/underrated" because it depends in which one's eyes, and also I'm not enough of a technical expert, but I will try speaking only of top-top-players :

I think Fed's forehand is overrated comparing to Nadal's ... I mean now, because in the past his forehand was even better than Nadal's has ever been.

Yesterday, NYCtennisfan was speaking about how Fed's forehand had changed and showing some clips. He has made it change because of his movement declining on that side, and it's another one of Fed's great evolutions he has made in his game, but it's no longer an equivalent of Nadal's forehand. Fed's serve is also often overrated : especially during last Wimbledon, I read that he had defeated Djokovic and Murray thanks to his serve whereas he had the same number of unreturned serves as Djokovic and nearly half of Murray's unreturned serves. But it's also related to his back problems probably.

As for Nadal, I think his footwork and his serve are underrated but his backhand and return have been overrated in many articles I read. I remember the bullshit that his backhand was the best of the game because he was ambidextrous then had 2 forehands Nadal's mental is also great but overrated imo but that's like every myth : it goes too far.

As for Djokovic, I think his return is a little bit overrated at the moment. It's very good but it's not like Agassi's and Connors's quality shot in the past considering the context of their time. On the opposite, his mental is still underrated imo. His touch is also underrated imo.

Murray's backhand may be overrated as well, doesn't make many winners with that and is less good for the passing-shot than with his forehand, but his return is still underrated imo.

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even watching ferrer v gasquet at the australian open. ferrer easily held his own in the backhand to backhand rallies and most people would agree ferrer has one of the worst backhands in the top 20.
I don't agree at all : Ferrer's backhand has become very good, doesn't fear anyone on that shot, it may even be better than Nadal's, although Nadal is better for the slice.

Yes Ferrer against Gasquet backhand rallies are often won by Ferrer, I mean who gets the short ball to attack.

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imo it wasn't the tweener himself which makes it famous, it was because he did this shot at a gs-semifinal against djokovic and he had 3 mp's after this.
Even apart from that, I don't remember any tweener passing-shot as powerful and well placed as that.

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