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You can run and lol all you want, he has SF and QF in last 2 RGs and he would be the favourite against anybody except Novak, Rafa, Fed, Ferrer, Berdych and Delpo on clay. You say you would pick Monaco against Murray? Go watch last years Rome SF vs Novak.
Yes i would. If ATP was not full of chokers Murray would not even get passed Nieminen this year. AND BTW i am no talking about previous years, i am talking about this year. If you wanna go rant about previous years. Then there the likes of Ferrero that has more achievements than Murray on clay. Everyone know maybe besides you that Murray is disposable in clay.
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Murray is a clay mug of sorts, but he's still infinitely better and more talented on the surface than Mugaco.
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Murray is a clay mug of sorts, but he's still infinitely better and more talented on the surface than Mugaco.
That is why he is 2-2 against Murray.
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Re: Hamburg F: Monaco aka Vulture in chief def Haas 7-5 6-4

He is a clay mug just bcs he is better off of it. But if he would have Monaco-like game and results and kept his cly results, he would be called clay specialist. And I know that he is not as good as the other players at the very top of the game on clay, but he is in the TOP10 clay courters today, and surely better than Monaco on any surface.

As for Ferrero, you are mixing frogs with grandmothers (Serbian saying ), Ferrero is declining and well past his peak, and Andy is in his prime and hasn't declined since last year. Overall, at their prime, sure I would rank Ferrero over him as a better claycourter

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He is a clay mug just bcs he is better off of it. But if he would have Monaco-like game and results and kept his cly results, he would be called clay specialist. And I know that he is not as good as the other players at the very top of the game on clay, but he is in the TOP10 clay courters today, and surely better than Monaco on any surface.

As for Ferrero, you are mixing frogs with grandmothers (Serbian saying ), Ferrero is declining and well past his peak, and Andy is in his prime and hasn't declined since last year. Overall, at their prime, sure I would rank Ferrero over him as a better claycourter
If you ask me last year if Murray was top 10 on clay, i would say yes. But this year his not, he got lucky will players choking and giving the match to him.
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That is why he is 2-2 against Murray.



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Re: Hamburg F: Monaco aka Vulture in chief def Haas 7-5 6-4

why haas is not at the olympics?

Q. Do you think you would have been able to play as well as you played today, or you think you would have pulled out from the game if it wasn't the Masters Cup final?

ROGER FEDERER: No, Roger Federer doesn't pull out. Otherwise he doesn't walk on court (smiling).


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Murray is better on clay than Monaco, slightly.
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