You just made one of most stupid and ignorant statements what I ever heard in this board. It is legit - just like dropshot , or lob , or bodyserve or hitting your opponent with ball . In all of these occasions opponent looks like a damn fool out there, runnig to get the lob he cant get back,running to get dropshot over the net and then being passed like sitting duck at the net, dodging the bullet on return, screaming in pain when 150 km/ h flying ball hurts his groin.Who the fuck cares of his feelings, of course he is pissed, that is whole purpose of it - to win the point, to get returner stand closer to baseline and to make him furious.
Why pros dont use it more ? Because players are not fools, it is surprise weapon, you just cant use it too often.Player who doesnt stand too far from baseline can easily get this serve and hit return winner.
There´s really no reason for that aggressive tone. I never questioned the legimity of the shot, but one of the great things about this sport is that it´s ( at least to an extent)a gentelemens sport, and it´s not ALL about winning, there are thing you just don´t do on court.
Originally Posted by Mountaindewslave
he is right though, there is no value in what you replied to him. it is a mockery to judge whether or not he has played the game competitively or not; the fact is that it is legal to play the shot. If someone doesn't like it that is one thing, but to purely say that players shouldn't do it because it is sometimes considered a slight by the extremely unexpected nature of the whole thing is ludicrous.
It is entirely irrelevant if someone comments on here with prior experience of competitive play, nor would you have any idea of what their experience is. The shot has been done before in quite big matches so clearly SOME pro players find it appropriate at times which would contradict what you say about a general frowning upon.
The fact is that it is a risky shot to hit because if the opponent reaches it they will likely win the point, and because hitting an underhand serve just right is sometimes rather difficult.
It's legal, professional players have used it before, and it's absolutely ridiculous that some of you (regardless of your experience) think that it's a shot that is worth being offended by. I have no idea how you must feel when a player wins a point off of a net chord, maybe spend a good deal of time with tissues and tears.
It would be a clever thing to use in today's game, but it is not so surprising many of you applaud the one dimensional game of today and fear the thought of a player mixing things up
Like NYCtennisfan said, looking at the replies in this thread its pretty obvious that some have played the game competitively and some haven´t. To anyone who has played it, it´s obvious that you just don´t use that shot, at least not if you want to be respected after the match. Yes, it has been used by some pros, but the reason it´s not used more is that most of the players don´t want to insult their opponent. Comparing this with net cords that are unintentional strokes of luck ( or bad luck) is pointless.
Mountaindewslave -- in certain limited situations, yes, the shot could be effective, but the reason you see so little use of it (other than the fact that it would be hard to pull off consistently and the opportunity cost of a good first serve, particularly for a good server, is too great) is because you learn, at an academy, from your parents, wherever and from whomever, not to do it. You can do it while practicing, joking around, etc., but NOT when you play a competitive match.
Now, this doesn't mean that the underarm serve isn't legal, but if you grow up playing this sport, you absorb the fact that the de facto rules of the sport frown upon its use, and that whoever uses this tactic often will be told about it in the locker room and will not be held in any sort of esteem by his peers.
People can argue that this view is silly, antiquated, or whatever, but it is the view of the vast majority of those that play the sport and that was what Doug was pointing out.
This is exactly what I tried to say. I suppose it sounds like a stupid and ridicilous thing to those that have not played the game themselves, but to those that have, it´s pretty clear.