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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!


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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

That's what they do for other sports

Yes, tennis has to realize that the Olympics are made for all sports and you have to suffer some of the other sports' rules.

The same for the hard national rules to be qualified for the Olympics (which Kohlschreiber and Rochus escaped from in the last minute, and which are even much harsher in some other sports).

The same for the doping tests as well ... except that they won't have to suffer the out-of-competition doping tests like in other sports because it's not during the Olympics and tennis has chosen to be much "softer".

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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

It's not fixing, it's giving some rules to the draw, like they do in the uefa champions' league draw in soccer.

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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

Good decision if true. Keeping countrymen apart is a good thing. Keeps the Spaniards, Wawrinka, Troicki etc from bowing down meekly to their masters.

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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

Its a country sport more than anything so they should be separated as much as possible, this is a good decision by the Olympics.
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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

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If there are two players or doubles teams from the same country, they will be drawn in opposite halves of the draw.
If there are three or more players/teams from the same country, they will be drawn in different quarters of the draw.

I don't see anything problematic about it.


All draws are already being 'fixed' by the 'seeding'. Meaning, you just place seeds #1 and #2 on the opposite sides, then you draw #3 and #4 in such a way they can't be in the same half, and then you draw #5, #6, #7, #8 each in one of the quarters etc. So, the draw is already 'fixed' - i.e. it is not *completely* random. This stuff above only adds further non-randomness; and since Olympics are based on the concept of 'nations', this looks like a good idea to me. It will still be pretty random as a whole, just not as random as usual tennis tournaments.

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I like it. In football there are a similar rule.

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The OP is such fail.

What's wrong with the rules? It's so normal
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It's one event, jeez. Let's hope the Spanish are not successful in laying down an easy, peasy QF, SF and F for their idol.


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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

Maybe 'fixing' was the right word, but Judio is still one of the most valuable career posters on MTF.
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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

Ok, then Nadal can't be with Ferrer and Djokovic can't be with Tipsy. This increases Fed's chance to be with one of them.
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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

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The OP is such fail.

What's wrong with the rules? It's so normal
It's not normal in tennis. I don't even know if they did this back in 2008?! Anyone?

But it isn't reason enough to get shocked.
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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

That happens in ITF tournaments all the time

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Re: They are Fixing the Olympic Draw !!!

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It's not normal in tennis. I don't even know if they did this back in 2008?! Anyone?
They did the same in 2008. For example, Robredo and Canas was in section 1, Ferrer and Monaco in section 2, Almagro and Nalbandian in section 3 and Nadal and Calleri in section 4.
No section has two equal flags. Check for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_...s_singles#Draw
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