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Worst young talent in history

Look at guys under 24 years old

Has done absolutely nothing

29 years old to 34 years old still in control

Unbelievable

GO Roger Federer, Nick Kyrgios, Borna Coric, Vasek Pospisil, Kei Nishikori, , Milos Raonic, Jerzy Janowicz, Grigor Dimitrov, Dennis Novikov and Bernard Tomic and Mikael Ymer

Thiem will be No 1 by Dec 2017
Nick Kyrgios will be No 1 by Sep 2018
Mikael Ymer will be No 3 by Dec 2018
Alexander Zverev will be No 3 by Dec 2017
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Juan Martin Delpotro is the only slam winner among the 88-younger group. Then again, when the GOATrio are in a constant fight with one another did you expect any different?

But still, even the American Fantastic Four from the 90's didn't dominate clay the way this GOATtrio has. While Courier won 2 FO, Chang won one at 17 and Agassi 18 years later. You knew clay could produce a quieter GS winner back in those days
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Too much facebook, twitter and MTF.

I suggest the internet-free diet.
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Del Potro and Cilic are the only players under 25 years of age to have a reached a semifinal. Really makes you question this generation.

But I suppose we should give them more time.
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IF Murray was born in 1992, he would be in for one hell of a career!

Imagine, he would start his breakthrough at 2013 with Nadal and Djokovic probably declining and he would be in his mid 20s when Nadal and Djokovic are 30 with no one as talented as him in sight at his own age!

It is incredible how the "luck" factor is not taken seriously in tennis, Murray has lost 9 times to Nadal, Djokovic or Federer in slam SFs and Fs, if he was born 5 years later he might have been facing avarage players in these SFs and Fs, kind of like Agassi playing Schuettler and Clement in slam finals.

Murray might have been a 6-8 slam winner and nr1 for 4-5 years born 5 years later, I kid you not. I still think his greatest rivals would be 30-year old Djokovic and 35-year old Federer.

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IF Murray was born in 1992, he would be in for one hell of a career!

Imagine, he would start his breakthrough at 2013 with Nadal and Djokovic probably declining and he would be in his mid 20s when Nadal and Djokovic are 30 with no one as talented as him in sight at his own age!

It is incredible how the "luck" factor is not taken seriously in tennis, Murray has lost 9 times to Nadal, Djokovic or Federer in slam SFs and Fs, if he was born 5 years later he might have been facing avarage players in these SFs and Fs, kind of like Agassi playing Schuettler and Clement in slam finals.

Murray might have been a 6-8 slam winner and nr1 for 4-5 years born 5 years later, I kid you not. I still think his greatest rivals would be 30-year old Djokovic and 35-year old Federer.
Maybe

but He was not

or

If he born in 1992, that's no Murray. Another TOmic or Harrison Suck at all

GO Roger Federer, Nick Kyrgios, Borna Coric, Vasek Pospisil, Kei Nishikori, , Milos Raonic, Jerzy Janowicz, Grigor Dimitrov, Dennis Novikov and Bernard Tomic and Mikael Ymer

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Maybe

but He was not

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If he born in 1992, that's no Murray. Another TOmic or Harrison Suck at all
Maybe. I think if any great talent appears in the 95-96 generation he might have his breakthrought very early because of the long talent drought from the ones born 89-94.

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The game is much more physical than it has ever been it's hard for the younger guys to make the break through against the physically stronger and much more experienced top veterans. The game has changed.

DelPo was able to break through because he's a freak physically and able to consistently hit the ball hard enough to trouble the top players. It's harder for guys under 21 to win a slam than ever before.

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Yes, I think it has much to do with the change in the physical nature of the men's game. Players like Nadal and Djokovic were fortunate to be an fantastic shape, especially Rafa, at an early age which allowed them to be very successful. Your physical maturity isn't around 18 necessarily, for many this comes several years into their 20s. I mean really when you are so young, coaches are mainly concentrating on your tennis skills and not as much on your physical abilities, then when you come on the tour, they realize it is the other way around. Many pros work out much more than they actually practice tennis.

This has also made the game much more mental I think because you have to work so hard for a point these days against the top players, so these young players come out with no experience as well, you can't help it. I do not think anyone can Boris Becker their way into a slam final anymore. Upsets are inevitable, but flat out titles, no. IMO today's tennis has the smallest window of years for peak ability. More and more younger players will struggle and more and more older guys will struggle just because of the physical nature of today's game.

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The game is much more physical than it has ever been it's hard for the younger guys to make the break through against the physically stronger and much more experienced top veterans. The game has changed.

DelPo was able to break through because he's a freak physically and able to consistently hit the ball hard enough to trouble the top players. It's harder for guys under 21 to win a slam than ever before.
I agree with your post except JMDP has had serious injures that were probably caused by the way he hit his big forehand.

I like some of the new generation and if people give them time, they will deliver. The game has changed dramatically in the last few years and barring a genetic freak, the days of teenagers winning GSs are over.
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Re: Worst young talent in history

Stop with this shit "it's more physical blablabla"

Nadal 2005 (19 years old) would be top 5 easily this year, the same for the Djoker at the same age (2007) and Murray

Harrison, Dimitrov, Raonic, Goffin, Tomic don't lose because they are unfit, they lose because their level is miles behind the tops.

They are simply not good enough

Dimitrov has a great technique but no power, Harrison is even worse, Raonic has the power but not the technique, Tomic has no power too (though he's IMO the most talented), Goffin we'll see but he's not that young.
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Federer was not a physical freak but he was much better than these guys at the same age too, at the same age of Raonic this year, he won Wimbledon in a fantastic fashion.

Hewitt was mentally and physically ready at 20 years old, his game would not be enough to win a slam these days but he would be top 10 at least, Roddick was already very good as a teenager with a ridiculous power, better than Raonic today, Safin was capable of total beatdown too, all of them would perhaps fail to win a slam if they was born in 1991 but the youngsters today are top 30, top 50, it's a disaster.
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