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Re: Who had better carreer: Nalbandian or Davydenko?

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Davydenko maximized his talent and never got any choke vibes from me. Nalbadian on the other hand, has so much more talent than him but the results are that similar. Therefore Davy had a better carrer in fans eyes
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Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

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Even if you take away Nalbandian's Wimby final, you could argue that his career was a little better than Davydenko's.
Davydenko has more titles (21 to 11), more prize money, more years ended in the top 5, an extra MS title, and a Davis Cup title to his name. Nalbandian has the slam final.

To me it looks like Davydenko takes this on career achievements. Note, this is not who I think is the most talented, this is who I see being the most accomplished. David is one of the great underachievers of this generation.
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Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

I got to say that Davydenko underachieved too cause of his epic chokings in a lot of important matches must i mention them ?

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Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

It's got to be Davydenko. The FO 2005 final spot should have been his and who knows if he could have won. After all, he's had some excellent results playing Nadal.
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Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

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Davydenko has more titles (21 to 11), more prize money, more years ended in the top 5, an extra MS title, and a Davis Cup title to his name. Nalbandian has the slam final.

To me it looks like Davydenko takes this on career achievements. Note, this is not who I think is the most talented, this is who I see being the most accomplished. David is one of the great underachievers of this generation.
That's also a fair argument. Thanks, I forgot about that . Because like you said, on the other hand Davydenko's got way more titles than him and he's got higher ranked finishes to seasons. He's also way more consistent (but that role has switched recently). So yeah, without the slam final, Davydenko is easily the better player.

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Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian?

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Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian?

Hey i want to add that Davydenko has 1 DOUBLES titles + 2 doubles finals
and Nalbandian got only one final !

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Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian?

Davydenko didn't necessarily 'maximise' his career I thought. He choked against Federer despite being in total control in 2006 and 2010 with very winnable rounds ahead of him. The Puerta one he was well on top in as well.

The guy was one of the best ballstrikers certainly of the latter half of this century and it's a shame he couldn't make a grand slam final. His WTF 09 performance coming through a draw from hell tells you how good he was.

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Nalbandian vs Davydenko: Who was the better player/whose peak level is higher/etc.?

I think most would agree that Nalbandian and Davydenko are the two best/most accomplished players of the 00s without a Slam title to their names. Both fine ballstrikers, both big underachievers especially at Slam level - although both are multi Masters 1000 winners and WTF champions.

But who was the better player of the two, whose peak level was higher, who achieved more, etc...?

Regarding career achievements:

Nalbandian:

1 Slam final
4 semis (semis at all Slams)

1 WTF title from three tries.

2 Masters title beating Fedal back to back in both + 4 finals

11 overall titles from 24 finals (7 250s, 1 500)

Davydenko:

0 Slam finals
4 semis (only at RG and USO)

1 WTF title + 1 final

3 Masters 100 titles in 3 finals (beating Nadal in two of those)

21 titles from 27 finals (16 250s, 1 500)

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I'd prefer the Miami 2008 final for Davydenko but unfortunately there are no good highlights of that one.

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Re: Nalbandian vs Davydenko: Who was the better player/whose peak level is higher/etc

I'll go with Nalbandian because he didn't choke to Federer as much as Davydenko did. Nalbandian was also affected by injuries much more so I'll give his superiority the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Nalbandian vs Davydenko: Who was the better player/whose peak level is higher/etc

It's close but Nalbandian shades it for me. Slam final, bigger calibre of opponents defeated in big matches. Davydenko for all his great ballstriking, struggled against elite guys in the biggest tournaments. I think Nalby's peak is higher too.

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Re: Nalbandian vs Davydenko: Who was the better player/whose peak level is higher/etc

Clearly Nalbandian. Davydenko's ceiling isn't that high - his main strength was that in his prime he kept up his level for sustained periods of time with very little variance.

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Re: Nalbandian vs Davydenko: Who was the better player/whose peak level is higher/etc

Definitely Nalbandian if taking into account peak level. Davy is a beast at his peak but David's just GS winner level. Shame he never got one.


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Re: Nalbandian vs Davydenko: Who was the better player/whose peak level is higher/etc

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Clearly Nalbandian. Davydenko's ceiling isn't that high - his main strength was that in his prime he kept up his level for sustained periods of time with very little variance.
Eh? Check his playing activity for even his most successful years on tour - he was highly irregular, perhaps even more so than Nalbandian. Also very prone to burning himself out before Slams.

Unless what you mean is that Davydenko remained a top player for a longer period than Nalbandian, in which case I'd agree.

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