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Delpo was a vulture in 2009 playing MM tournaments because he really needed that points in small tournaments but not anymore. Ferrer on the other hand still plays year after year these tournaments, really key points to see him every year as top ten. He does it because he can, he plays too many tournaments, not everyone can afford that.
You mean 2008? He went on a tear winning four tournaments in a row in the summer, climbing up to the top 15. Even then, he beats guys like Gasquet and Roddick, not exactly mugs.

It was a magical run, his breakthrough, but it was so sad when he lost that close one to Murray in USO
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Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

Well ferrer backs it up by still doing good in the slams so what's the problem?
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Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

Ferrer, Almagro, Monaco, LaLo, Berlocq (less so this year), Soeda, Klizan, Falla, Lu, Ito, Jaziri, Volandri, Lorenzi, Machado, Dutra Silva, Ungur and Starace.

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Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

Brian Baker for sure. The number of futures events he's played over the past year is ridiculous.
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You know what I'm talking about, guys like Ferrer, delPo...
Stop it right there.

You had a legit issue to discuss..... but then you sneaked sideways on a playa-hating detour.

Delpo is not vulturing now, and was not vulturing in the past either (what he did the previous season is completely legitimate path to take for someone who was coming back from a heinous injury that not only almost destroyed his career & put him out of the circuit for what seemed like an eternity; it also knocked him out of the top 100 (your own criteria in this thread).

In other words, starting from scratch - from ground zero hell, and making a measured, methodical, step-by-step comeback to the top, is not vulturing.
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Yes. Look at the tournaments he entered.

Roterdam 500 - full of mugs like Berdych and Federer.

Marseille 250 - even muggier field with journeyman like Tsonga, Fish and Tipsarevic.

Dubai - muggiest 500 event ever seen - Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Tsonga, Berdych, only a vulture would enter this tournament.

If only he were like Ferrer, who only joins tournaments full of top 10 players...
Ferrer crushed DelPo this year, so you don't really have a case there. Btw, Fish appeared in Marseille just to collect the money, he lost his first match there.

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Brian Baker for sure. The number of futures events he's played over the past year is ridiculous.
Technically, you're right, realisticly, not at all. Btw, is Baker the only top100 player that has futers points in his rankings points?

Edit: He's not, I just saw Jaziri played 1 futers in Kazakhstan last year... There you go, It's Jaziri
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Ferrer. I mean come on, he's a solid top 30 player but has no business in the top 10. He's never a danger to the big 3 and hardly threatening in big tournaments. This is simply because he doesn't have the weapons to challenge or top honors however his pusher tactics adequate vs lower league players. Ferrer makes the most of his limitations and takes advantage of the ranking system. I cant stand the guy and general rate him as a shit player but what can you do.
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dont think Monaco much of a vulture he has only played one weak events that is Chile. For people saying why play Acapulco and not Dubai because they prefer clay over hardcourts. And i dont think Acpaulco has a weak field the field is for 500's, its just Dubai's field is for Masters. How about Seppi who has played like 18 events already, Kohli and Simon with 16. Didn't del Potro play Sydney with a weak field and lost, he also played Estoril. And i also think the only player that doesn't really vulture are the top 4. Specially Djokovic. The others have played at least one weak tournament.

For me the only two main vultures are Almagro and Verdasco, they always take wild cards in 250 events.
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Ferrer went to Acapulco
because, that tournament clear had a weaker field and Ferrer felt it would be a great chance to increase his already inflated ranking. He knew he had no chance vs the top guys so he did what he does best and preyed on inferior players. Tennis is a profession to the guy, a job.
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Ferrer. I mean come on, he's a solid top 30 player but has no business in the top 10. He's never a danger to the big 3 and hardly threatening in big tournaments. This is simply because he doesn't have the weapons to challenge or top honors however his pusher tactics adequate vs lower league players. Ferrer makes the most of his limitations and takes advantage of the ranking system. I cant stand the guy and general rate him as a shit player but what can you do.
Yeah cause he didn't reach the quarters of Aussie and Wimbledon and Semis of French Open. His so not a top 10 player, for being consistently good on slams.
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Ferrer top 30 player? His worth ethic and consistency is top 1 quality, and he has the slam results to back up his ranking. Absurd statement.

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He's up to 87 GS wins. Not too shabby. He, Haas and JCF are all pushing for 100, either this year or next year.

Haas - 98 GS wins, JCF - 99 GS wins,

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Ferrer top 30 player? His worth ethic and consistency is top 1 quality, and he has the slam results to back up his ranking. Absurd statement.
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All praise Davydenko the father of vulturing but he is not a point-vulture he is a money-vulture
and again ... he hasn't won that much tournaments ...

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