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Roddick-Stefanki coaching

Do you think that Stefanki has been a good influence on Roddick by giving him more an all-round player
Or has he completely ruined Roddick by trying to turn him into an all-round player which is not his natural game, lost the serve and the big forehand.
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Funny that you posted this, I was going to make a comment in the match thread about it.

He has completely ruined Roddick and I hope no one ever hires him again. The smug smile he always had on, like he enjoyed the work of destruction he laid out on his pupil.
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I have no idea why Roddick is paying this man. And this "better all-round player" nonsense is just that.

People seem to forget that Roddick did approach the net in the earlier part of the 2000's, but less frequently and with more success. Coming in behind extremely poor approach shots is suicidal, especially today with slow courts year round.

And he's been passive for more than 6 years and Stefanki only seemed to encourage this.

At the Australian Open 2009 many credited Stefanki for Roddick's apparent increase in fitness, but he's been like a yo-yo fitness-wise throughout his career.

It's puzzling and frustrating to watch.
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I have no idea why Roddick is paying this man. And this "better all-round player" nonsense is just that.

People seem to forget that Roddick did approach the net in the earlier part of the 2000's, but less frequently and with more success. Coming in behind extremely poor approach shots is suicidal, especially today with slow courts year round.

And he's been passive for more than 6 years and Stefanki only seemed to encourage this.

At the Australian Open 2009 many credited Stefanki for Roddick's apparent increase in fitness, but he's been like a yo-yo fitness-wise throughout his career.

It's puzzling and frustrating to watch.
Im happy that im not the only one who thought this, i thought it will bashing roddick thread which made me sad. I feel like if he sticks to his aggressive game which made him beat Nadal and Federer, he will be at least a top 15 player.
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Re: Roddick-Stefanki coaching

He's clearly going through the motion's mentally which doesn't help.

Would anyone actually be surprised if he retired this year?
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Re: Roddick-Stefanki coaching

stefanki knows fuck all about tennis

these sandpaper slow courts DO NOT ALLOW ANY TYPE OF VOLLEY

and especially not ones from roddicks epic shit approach shots of hilarity

edberg would be losing R1 at wimbledon (slight exaggeration there.) because its become RG part 2

so stefanki teaching roddick to come in shows how crystal meth'd he must be

roddick should be going back to his basics

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Stefanki is good as a janitor or cleaner. Other than that, he killed Roddick's career.

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LOL - pretty sure 2009 under Larry was one of the best years of Andy's Career...also he backed that up back by winning Miami and reaching the finals of IW.

I don't think he killed Andy's career I think he squeezed the last ounce of results from it.

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Andy is unfit, that is Andy's problem no doubt.

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LOL - pretty sure 2009 under Larry was one of the best years of Andy's Career...also he backed that up back by winning Miami and reaching the finals of IW.

I don't think he killed Andy's career I think he squeezed the last ounce of results from it.
This is the way I feel too. I don't think Stefanki is necessarily to blame.

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LOL - pretty sure 2009 under Larry was one of the best years of Andy's Career...also he backed that up back by winning Miami and reaching the finals of IW.

I don't think he killed Andy's career I think he squeezed the last ounce of results from it.
That is the issue, his results at the beginning was good for a while as their main focus was fitness but it started to go bad as he started to employ the Stefanki style of play. Remember why Fernando Gonzalez left him, it was because Stefanki was telling him to reduce his serve speed and he didn't think it was a good decision. I think he doing the same with Roddick. Stefanki's problem is that he doesn't analyze the players game but his idea of what a player is. He tries to make Andy an all-court player, which obviously he isn't. His coaching will serve players like Gasquet and Dimitrov the best. I don't think it's fully his fault what happened but Roddick will have a better shot if he goes back to pre-Stefanki, controlling the points rather than being too crafty.
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LOL - pretty sure 2009 under Larry was one of the best years of Andy's Career...also he backed that up back by winning Miami and reaching the finals of IW.

I don't think he killed Andy's career I think he squeezed the last ounce of results from it.
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LOL - pretty sure 2009 under Larry was one of the best years of Andy's Career...also he backed that up back by winning Miami and reaching the finals of IW.

I don't think he killed Andy's career I think he squeezed the last ounce of results from it.
I agree,

I think his 2002-2004 big serve big forehand game is not really suited to win slams in the 2005-now era. The fact is his big forehand was less consistent and less deadly then Federers, also his halfvolleys under pressure from the baseline were not top class. I Think his 2002-2004 game would have been grinded down/ counterpunched in the era that followed by top5 players.

And I believe he worked hard, and was pretty fit for most of his career.
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Remember why Fernando Gonzalez left him, it was because Stefanki was telling him to reduce his serve speed and he didn't think it was a good decision. .
He ruined Tim Henman's serve the same way. It went from being a good if a bit erratic serve, to a less erratic one which never got any free points and was easily attackable.

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He ruined Tim Henman's serve the same way. It went from being a good if a bit erratic serve, to a less erratic one which never got any free points and was easily attackable.
That was a disaster, Tim was a sitting duck when he approached the net on many occasions. Tim should have been in his prime, as soon as he left that loon he won Paris Masters and had his wonderful 2004. Apparently the change in serve also nearly destroyed his shoulder.

However I do think Roddicks pre 2006 power game would not work today so he had the right idea by trying to change it. Roddick is pretty old now, but then again so is Ferrer and Federer.

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