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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

Someone still bitter about losing to an injured Murray at IW in 07 I see

Andy very rarely calls the trainer, so that's actually a load of crap.

Does he spend a lot of time on court clutching at something, pulling faces, or touching his knee, his back, whatever? Yes he does. Is he injured or faking it? Nobody can know except him and what you choose to believe probably depends on whether you like him or not in the first place. If you like him you give him the benefit of the doubt. If you don't you probably cry "gamesmanship".

Either way, it doesn't really matter - the opponent has to get past these things and play the ball, not the guy or his on-court antics, tough as that may be. If you ask Murray I'm sure he'd say Haas is entitled to his opinion but that Haas is wrong. I'm sure Murray doesn't give a fiddler's toss what Haas or anyone else thinks about this.

If you define gamesmanship as "disrupting the natural flow of the match to try to gain advantage" then there are many, many players out there with many different tricks that are gamesmanship, most of which are not actually breaking any rules, so you have to deal with them and not hide behind this as an excuse when you then lose to them.
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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

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clearly his trainer does a very good job, GOAT trainer perhaps?
Perhaps. But this is GOAT quote, NID. Tommy Haas: 0 fucks given.

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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

Murray calls the trainer once in a year, and he gets called out, NID. I wish Nadal and Djokovic, or anyone else does something like this, would get called out too.
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Good point. Murray never calls the trainer but looks like he has been shot by a sniper half the time. True spartan.

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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

Andrew feeling sorry for himself time and time again on the court only hurts his own game. It's not getting him anywhere and never will. Novak and Rafa will continue to eat up mentally fragile players like him.
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"It's difficult when you play against someone who is walking on the court like he is not well or is injured," Haas said. "I find no one does this better than Andy Murray, from time to time. Sometimes he looks like he can barely move, then comes the trainer and then he moves like a cat. I believe everyone knows this now. People talk about it in the locker room.

"Maybe he would like to take some pressure off himself. He tells himself, maybe I have a niggle or a problem, I am not feeling too well, but I'm going to try it anyway. But he is such a talented player that he really doesn't need [to do] this."


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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

Nadal, Djokovic and Murray are cheaters, nothing new here.
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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

The match against Gasquet this year at Roland Garros was absurd. The trainer wasn't involved but in the second set, he would wince and feel his back but only after he lost a point. Then came the fist pumping after winning points after running around and moving into more vulnerable positions than Stretch Armstrong. Then after he took control of the match, the back was never to be heard of again.

Ridiculous behaviour.

Haas must find it extremely patronising considering the man has been through more injuries than 99% of players that have ever played on the ATP tour and yet he comes back, time and time again, with no drama nor complaint.
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Re: Tommy Haas on Murray: "He brings on trainer then moves like a cat"

This is my favourite thread of all time in the making.

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Haas still butthurt over IW 2007, I see.

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Haas I hope more players start calling each other out for dubious on-court behavior. Hopefully this thread won't be idiotically closed like the Ljubicic-Nadal thread from a couple weeks back was
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Haas still butthurt over IW 2007, I see.
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