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Top players' Holy Grails

I was going to made this a blog post. But I thought it would be better if I make a thread here in MTF and we discuss what's gonna happen with the top players and their most important tournament right now.

1. Novak Djokovic.
After winning 3 grand slams last year, I think we all can concur that Novak Djokovic's big obsession is Roland Garros.

ATM, the french tournament has only one god, the best player on clay, Rafael Nadal. And he wont be easy to dethrone. They'll need to play the best match of their lives and pray to the mother of mercy for Rafa being tired or de-focused.

My prediction:
Djokovic will win Roland Garros. He will complete the Career Grand Slam, he has the game and the balls. He just needs to find it, like in Wimbledon last year.
I'd say Djokovic will win Roland Garros during the next 3 years.


2. Rafael Nadal.
After making history last monday, Rafa has nothing to lose. He has the world on his feet. It's true that he's number 2 of the world. But he already has Career grand slam, he already has olympic gold and the record of most M1000.

Now... His Holy grail is this one:


Yes. World Tour Finals.
He had his best chance in 2010, when he reached his first final, playing great matches in a surface that doesn't fit his game.
His problem here, is that because of his style of play, he's probably tired at the end of the season, and the tournament is always held in November.

Now...
World Tour Finals changes the surface, and the venue. So... Who knows? Maybe next time it'd be played on clay. And there... Oh yeah.

My prediction:
Even if it isn't played on clay, Rafa will win WTF once in his career.
Even in this surface, Rafa knows when to rise his level. So... When he realises he couldn't keep playing at his best the whole season, he'll decide to peak in November, and finally win that tournament.
I think he'll win the tournament by the end of his career, considering he'll play great tennis until early 30s, I see 2014, 2015 as a good year for Rafa to win the WTF.


3. Roger Federer.
Before 2009. His Holy Grail was obviously Roland Garros.
He reached the final 3 times and made great matches with a high tennis quality during those years. But there was always Nadal to stop his way to the glory.
In 2009, he managed to avoid Rafa and win over a motivated Soderling his first and only Roland Garros yet.

He has won several slams, several M1000, WTF, he was world number one for a long time and so many people consider him the greatest.

But...

Exactly. His Olympic performances were kinda bad for his level of play.
I think Roger is who has the least pressure in the top 3, because he has achieved amazing things over his career, even an Olympics doubles medal, who's important.
So many people (I'm included here) think that an Olympics gold medal, in whatever venue is the same (considering doubles and singles), that's probably because they play for the nation and not for themselves.

But one thing is for sure... Federer doesn't has so many chances of achieving the Olympic-Gold. 2012 will probably be his best chance ever, Wimbledon, best of three sets... He's having a good year.

He said he's probably gonna play Rio 2016 Olympics. But who knows, considering his age, nobody knows how he's gonna be at that age.

My prediction: He has only one chance IMO, and it's this year.
As beeing only one chance, I'm not gonna predict here, it's kinda unfair. I think he has chances, and he will be over-motivated. But who knows?
Let's see which Federer shows up. 50-50 chance here.



4. Andy Murray.

Andy Murray is a solid player with a great level in almost all surfaces.
He's the british best player since probably Perry.
British people are so hungry about tennis, they need a winner, and Andy Murray could be that player, now, the problem is.
Murray reached 3 slam finals, and he could never grab a set.
He's a solid player, but not solid enough to beat the big 3 in slams. Nadal and Djokovic owned him las year. Maybe his best shot is against Federer, he has a positive H2H vs him.

His most important tournament:


I think we all agree here.
Every slam is important for a slamless player, but Wimbledon needs a british winning that tournament ASAP.
Will that happen soon? Will Murray win Wimbledon?
Or another one should be the savior...


My prediction: Yes. He's gonna make it. Maybe later, maybe sooner. But he needs to get that trophy. He was so close to the finals in some occasions, he also made semis in the last 3 years.
I think he's gonna make it when Fedal couldn't do better there.
I can imagine Murray losing to any of both Fedal this year in London.
But, if we talk about 2015, or 2016, when I think Fedal won't be that powerful, Murray is a great favorite.



So now... What do YOU think?

Could they grab those tournaments? Could they do it?
How? When?

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Re: Top player's Holy Grails

the djoker eventually winning roland garros is most likely, murray winning a slam is least likely let alone wimbledon. there is a decent chance for fedal to get their holy grails but but feds last chance is 2012.
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Fed has obviously got to get it done this year.
I think Nadal may have had his best shot in 2010 (he also missed it in '08).
I still think Murray will pick up a slam in the next couple of years, doesn't matter which one.
Djokovic winning RG would be the most likely.

Murray's is the only one that is truly a holy grail though. The others are more like a superfluous goblet or something, as they've achieved so much already.
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I think ALL of them will get their holy grails. The most difficult, Roger winning the Gold medal.



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Re: Top player's Holy Grails

Djokovic: Yes

Nadal: Maybe (if I had to bet, I'd say no)

Federer: No

Murray: NO

Also interesting how you think movement-reliant Murray will win Wimbledon in 2015 or 2016, at 28/29 when not even Federer could pull it off at that age.
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Federer's is the most difficult, imho.
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Why are people saying Federer's the most difficult when the Olympics are played on grass in BO3 format except for the final. I am puzzled...


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Why are people saying Federer's the most difficult when the Olympics are played on grass in BO3 format except for the final. I am puzzled...
He has once chance... Not so for the others.
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Why are people saying Federer's the most difficult when the Olympics are played on grass in BO3 format except for the final. I am puzzled...
Well, it will be tough. Federer has been showing vulnerability on grass in recent years.

But it's still far more likely than Murray winning Wimbledon.
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Why are people saying Federer's the most difficult when the Olympics are played on grass in BO3 format except for the final. I am puzzled...
It's not because he cannot do it, obviously he should do well on grass, but because he hasn't got more than a chance. And I think this year both Nole and Rafa will kill for the Gold. In my opinion, Roger stands little chance.



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Also interesting how you think movement-reliant Murray will win Wimbledon in 2015 or 2016, at 28/29 when not even Federer could pull it off at that age.
I think so. If Murray moves better than Oldal and Elderer, he'd probably be the favorite.
I mean, from what I saw ATM, I don't think Tomic, Dimitrov or any of the youngsters will get his level.

But who knows, I really hope Raonic, Tomic and even Dimitrov would play at a great level.

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I would like to see Murray win Wimbledon, but it is unlikely. Roger I'd like to see win the Gold, and then the whole year comes down to the USO.

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It's going to be tough for Nadal to win WTF assuming it remains indoors. He's won only 1 title indoors & while he did brilliantly in 2010 beating Djokovic & Murray, both of whom are superior indoor players, on his way to final, he still couldn't get it done against a player he has a huge psychological hold over; & if his form is any lower than that, there are just too many players who can beat him indoors. I also think it's going to be hard for Roger to win Olympic gold, even on grass. Despite what he says, I am convinced that deep down he is far more interested in the U.S. Open than the Olympics and has never given his best effort at the Olympics for this reason. Murray is running out of time to win his 1st slam: very few players in the Open Era have won their 1st slam after 25. Djoker did just about enough in the R.G. final to show he can beat Nadal there, but all parts of his game have to be clicking & he needs to play well enough to get to Nadal in the first place.

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I really hope Federer cares more for a slam right now than in the olympics

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Why are people saying Federer's the most difficult when the Olympics are played on grass in BO3 format except for the final. I am puzzled...
his return of serve on grass is poor and he gets exposed in that area when a big hitter plays him .And best of 3 is a better place to cause an upset too

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