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Nadal will win at least 3 more Roland Garros titles!

Sky Sports UK commentator Mark Petchey believes Rafael Nadal will win at least 3 more Roland Garros titles and possibly equal Roger Federer's total of 16 grand slams!

He gives his full opinion of Roland Garros on 'Sky Sports News Radio's Tennis Weekly Podcast.'

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Re: Nadal will win at least 3 more Roland Garros titles!

Wrong. He will dull everyone by winning 4 more RGs, 7 more Ws, 11 more AOs and 14 more USOs to become the undisputed TITLE GOAT by 35 yrs of age.

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Whilst this quite likely I have lost a little respect for Petch's opinions after he was prepared to dump Rafa and Fed for Nole had he won the RG final. He claimed a win there would have made him the greatest player of this era and therefore of all time I was like, dude you used to be a serious commentator...what happened
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Re: Nadal will win at least 3 more Roland Garros titles!

Rafa will probably get 8, maybe 9. I don't think he is winning 10 RG titles. It's just too much to fathom (and this is coming from a big Nadal fan).

If you look at past clay court greats, their best years are 25 and under. Nadal will no longer be unbeatable at RG when he is 28 or 29. Not saying he won't be able to win, just that it will not be automatic.

It's just the way it works in Tennis. Players get older and they stop dominating. Late 20's is past your prime in this sport. It's simply too demanding physically.
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Re: Nadal will win at least 3 more Roland Garros titles!

Only if there are good enough players to challenge them. For all intents and purposes the only player who can challenge him is practically of the same age. So there's no age advantage there. Everyone else sucks on clay...or is made to look sucky compared to the supreme talent of Rafa.
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petch needs to spend less time flirting with courier and.more time watching tennis

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Only if there are good enough players to challenge them. For all intents and purposes the only player who can challenge him is practically of the same age. So there's no age advantage there. Everyone else sucks on clay...or is made to look sucky compared to the supreme talent of Rafa.
I guess I just tend to be more cautious when it comes to predicting the future. Rafa won his first RG title when he was 18 I believe. Are you telling me there are no 16-17 year old amateurs right now that aren't a year away from going pro and beating a 28/29 year old Rafa at RG? Michael Chang won RG at 17.

Who could have predicted at the end of 2010 that Nadal would lose 3 straight slam finals against Novak in 2012? Whose to say Murray doesn't get his head on straight in the next year and beat Rafa at next years RG?

Nadal is 26. Your physical peak is 25. He takes great care of himself and is exceedingly disciplined. But his game is extremely physical. It is not realistic to think that at age 28 or 29, he will be as dominate as he is now. It is also not realistic to think that no one is going to appear on the scene who can challenge him over the next three years. That's a long time in tennis.
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I guess I just tend to be more cautious when it comes to predicting the future. Rafa won his first RG title when he was 18 I believe. Are you telling me there are no 16-17 year old amateurs right now that aren't a year away from going pro and beating a 28/29 year old Rafa at RG? Michael Chang won RG at 17.

Who could have predicted at the end of 2010 that Nadal would lose 3 straight slam finals against Novak in 2012? Whose to say Murray doesn't get his head on straight in the next year and beat Rafa at next years RG?

Nadal is 26. Your physical peak is 25. He takes great care of himself and is exceedingly disciplined. But his game is extremely physical. It is not realistic to think that at age 28 or 29, he will be as dominate as he is now. It is also not realistic to think that no one is going to appear on the scene who can challenge him over the next three years. That's a long time in tennis.
Murray's problem isn't his head, he's quite tough mentally. His problem is his forehand and, to a lesser extent, serve. You can't win Grand Slam events, let alone against Rafa at the French Open, if you're not able to dictate with your forehand.
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I guess I just tend to be more cautious when it comes to predicting the future. Rafa won his first RG title when he was 18 I believe. Are you telling me there are no 16-17 year old amateurs right now that aren't a year away from going pro and beating a 28/29 year old Rafa at RG? Michael Chang won RG at 17.

Who could have predicted at the end of 2010 that Nadal would lose 3 straight slam finals against Novak in 2012? Whose to say Murray doesn't get his head on straight in the next year and beat Rafa at next years RG?

Nadal is 26. Your physical peak is 25. He takes great care of himself and is exceedingly disciplined. But his game is extremely physical. It is not realistic to think that at age 28 or 29, he will be as dominate as he is now. It is also not realistic to think that no one is going to appear on the scene who can challenge him over the next three years. That's a long time in tennis.
Well no juniors have come through in the last 3 years so it's not a given that one will come through in the next three years. Anyone who has been following tennis knows that it's becoming increasingly difficult for juniors to make the transition to the men's game. There is a reason there is only one player under 20 in the top 100. It's perfectly reasonable to expect Rafa to continue winning at 29. The whole "his game is too physical" claptrap is being dis-proven all the time. He has lost a lot of weight to reduce the impact on his joints. He just needs to maintain that and not play too many hard court tournies.

Ferrer and Federer are still playing well at 31. There are way too many good players on the faster surfaces hence Federer's inability to win slams on those surfaces anymore. The same cannot be said for clay. Rafa's destroyed anyone's aspirations to do well on that surface. They know who they will have to beat to win RG. Look what he has done with all the Spanish players. They might have been the logical choice to give him trouble but they are lucky to get a sniff at winning a set. Rafa is unlike any other clay great on clay. He is a law unto himself. You saw it yesterday and still you refuse to believe your eyes.
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the sport has changed.

juniors are not physical enough and that is why they are largely irrelevant in their early years as pros.

it takes a long time to become a factor on the tour. and even then if you not are blessed from the gods with massive movement and extreme physicality, you have no chance of taking on the top guns.

fed, nadal, and nole are among the most gifted athletes of our times in all of sports and not just tennis.

they have compared nole and nadal`s speeds equal to or better than the fastest cornerbacks in the NFL.

both of them could easily have been elite tour de france type cylists or world class soccer players easily.

or they could have dominated triathlons. well you get the idea.

younger players coming up are not gifted like these 3. and on top of that, it takes years to develop today.

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There is going to be a natural decline is his foot speed and endurance, making his game less effective. It will effect him far more than Federer as Fed has way more finishing power and the big serve. The problem is that he doesn't seem to be making adjustments/improvements for a time when he can't run around his backhand as much and he can't outlast the opponent.
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Why not?
He is only 26, who can beat him in next years? Del Potro could be his best rival with Djokovic, but at this moment there is no great new players that in a few years can be real oponents to Nadal.
Raonic, Harrison, tomic...could be good but not in clay.
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Nadal in almost unbeatable on the surface with the most complete clay game in history, I don't see why 10 RG titles are out of his reach
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9 is a lock.


10 may or may not happen.

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9 is a lock.

10 may or may not happen.
I wouldn't go placing your bets on no.9 just yet.....concentrate on 8. Father time has a way of working his magic....and, as good as he was this year, Nadal is likely at the precipice.
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