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Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

The world number one ranking is up for grabs for Federer and Nadal after Wimbledon and it's up to Djokovic to defend it. The current ATP rankings:

Djokovic 12 280
Nadal 10 060
Federer 9 310

Post Wimbledon rankings (not considering Halle):

Djokovic 10 280
Nadal 8 860
Federer 8 950

So we see that Djokovic still has a comfortable lead BUT both Federer and Nadal can gain the nr.1 ranking, if Djokovic fails to reach the semis and either one of the other two win the title. Another consideration: If Federer or Nadal win Halle, Djokovic will likely need to reach the final to secure his ranking.

If we consider the "battle" for the nr.2 ranking, Nadal needs to outperform Federer at Wimbledon to stay nr.2.

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lol, who will beat him? Wawrinka? Berdych? Gulbis? Rosol? Federer?

Only Del Potro can take him out before the semis, and he won't. Nadal is winning the AO, bet your house on it.
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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

It will be a cracker fight between these three, because we have Wimbledon, Olympics, Toronto, Cincinnati and US Open ahead.
I think chances are the same for everybody, Djoko has to defend his 1600 points (Toronto+Cincy) plus Wimbledon and US Open. Roger and Rafa have got not much to defend on 2 Masters - plus there are Olympics on grass. Interesing, really.

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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

Djokovic to lose in the quarters. Fed to avenge his 08 loss to Nadal in the final.
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Nadal is #2 or #1 in my opinion unless Roger wins Wimbledon. I can't put Roger any higher than #3 as long as he is getting his clock cleaned by Rafa or Nole in slams. And I am a big fan

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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

Same here Sheeple. Can't see Fed taking anything from those 2 but I can definitely see Nadal snatching #1 back by the end of the Olympics.

BTW what happens next year? do the Olympics points simply get deducted?
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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

So basically, if Djokovic does not defend Wimbledon, his No.1 ranking will be in huge danger.
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Same here Sheeple. Can't see Fed taking anything from those 2 but I can definitely see Nadal snatching #1 back by the end of the Olympics.

BTW what happens next year? do the Olympics points simply get deducted?
From what I understand, yes. Or rather, replaced by some other result.

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lol, who will beat him? Wawrinka? Berdych? Gulbis? Rosol? Federer?

Only Del Potro can take him out before the semis, and he won't. Nadal is winning the AO, bet your house on it.
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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

If Nadal wins Wimbledon, Djokovic's ranking will be in danger.

Don't think that will be the case if someone else does; if he holds 2 Slams, and two different players hold 1 his #1 will be safe in theory.
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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

interesting.

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So basically, if Djokovic does not defend Wimbledon, his No.1 ranking will be in huge danger.
If he doesn't reach the final, rather

After Nadal beat Monfils at Doha, before AO 2014
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lol, who will beat him? Wawrinka? Berdych? Gulbis? Rosol? Federer?

Only Del Potro can take him out before the semis, and he won't. Nadal is winning the AO, bet your house on it.
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Re: Battle for nr.1 heats up at Wimbledon

An additive : if Djokovic loses in Wimbledon semifinal, a win in Wimbledon would be enough :

- for Nadal if he also wins Halle

- for Federer if he raches the semifinal in Halle (that is beats Raonic and Mayer)

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If Nadal wins Wimbledon, Djokovic's ranking will be in danger.

Don't think that will be the case if someone else does; if he holds 2 Slams, and two different players hold 1 his #1 will be safe in theory.
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the topic is about the ATP ranking, not about your ranking or about the MTF ranking.

Whatever people think about that, that's the situation in the ATP rankings in case Nadal or Fed wins Wimbledon.

PS : I'm not confident at all about Fed on grass, as he's looked bad since he came back for Madrid. He needs a great physical condition to be good on grass and this year again it seems that will not be the case. But Nadal winning Wimbledon and Halle and Djokovic not reaching final or even semifinal of Wimbledon is very possible.
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If he doesn't reach the final, rather
If he loses the final vs. Federer or Nadal, the difference will be only a few hundred points, and Djokovic is still defending almost everything until USO. If he doesn't win Wimbledon, I expect him to lose the No.1 at some point in the summer. He can still finish the year as No.1 tho.
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even on grass djoko is favorite against Nadal, Fed and Murray.
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even on grass djoko is favorite against Nadal, Fed and Murray.
no.

7/4 Nadal to be YE No.1. Too easy this betting game

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even on grass djoko is favorite against Nadal, Fed and Murray.
He was extremly close to losing at the last 3 slams in several matches, I can see someone beating him if he doesn't play his very best
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