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Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

We all know that Nadal and Sampras have won 7 slams in the same tournament. I personally think winning 7 times on a surface such as the U.S. Open or AO is more challenging. What's your take? Who are you impressed with the most? Sampras or Nadal? Winning which slam 7 times is the hardest in your opinion?

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Re: Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

seven Roland Garros's is harder than seven Wimbledon's obviously. clay is more grinding and wearing on the body, so more often than not a a great clay court player will lose their abilities way too early.

with a great SErve and fast grass, ala Sampras, a player could dominate grass without too much trouble, clay on the other hand is so physical.

clay might be the hardest, Roland Garros 7 times is insane. i'm not just saying this because of the current events either but because clay is just so taxing on the body. if Nadal had not started out so well so young it would never be possible but examples like Goran Ivansevic show that even an older player serving out of the lights can win Wimbledon randomly. clay is less random because of how much works it takes to win Roland Garros

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Re: Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

RG is THE hardest slam to win physically. To win 7 is just inhuman.

To me what Nadal did on the surface is just sick. More impressive than 7 Wimbledons, especially on 90's grass where you could serve your way through the match.

Sampras would be puking all over the court if he had to play one match as physical as Nadal does on clay.
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Dont compare apples with oranges. Winning 7 Wimbledons are hard in simlar fashion too. Nadal will never get the serve similar to Sampras not getting the physical str.
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RG is THE hardest slam to win physically. To win 7 is just inhuman.

To me what Nadal did on the surface is just sick. More impressive than 7 Wimbledons, especially on 90's grass where you could serve your way through the match.

Sampras would be puking all over the court if he had to play one match as physical as Nadal does on clay.
I don't know. Grass when it was fast, someone could serve 3 sets lights out and beat you in tie-breaks, no? Whereas on clay, Rafa is so much better in the clay court game that people do not get lucky. So the chances of Rafa losing even sets before a final are always remote (except last year where the conditions were a bit whacky).

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Dont compare apples with oranges. Winning 7 Wimbledons are hard in simlar fashion too. Nadal will never get the serve similar to Sampras not getting the physical str.
Not comparing them. I think winning 7 US Opens is the hardest. Hard courts are not easy on the body and more people know how to play on them. That's just a fact

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Not comparing them. I think winning 7 US Opens is the hardest. Hard courts are not easy on the body and more people know how to play on them. That's just a fact
This is correct and must be taken into account. This current era is hard court heavy: 2 slams, world tour final, and 6 masters titles on hard courts = more players being better on hard court.
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Definitely RG simply because it's physically demanding. Don't underestimate how hard Nadal has worked all his life to get to this point. The fact that so few can take him down on clay in general, means they just don't have what it takes mentally and physically to beat him.

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Sorry, but I don't understand the question.
Winning 7 slams of the same one is something just SO BIG.
Who cares which slam is? It's so fuckin big, it's amazing.

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Re: Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

when exactly did Nadal have to win a physically demanding Roland Garros?

matches aren't particularly physical when you're so much better than the competition that you barely drop sets.

in the current era, winning 7 on a hardcourt would be most impressive simply because the level of competition is a bit deeper.

there are fuck all clay or grass specialists left
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Re: Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

RG's probably better due to how much clay hurts your body, but there were more good grass-courters in Sampras's time than good clay-courters in Nadal's time.

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Re: Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

Once you get to seven ANYWHERE, it's pretty pointless to quibble over the location.
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Re: Winning 7 Slams.... What's more impressive?

Sampras had to play against far more dangerous players on the surface

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Sampras had to play against far more dangerous players on the surface
Sampras could serve himself to the title. And really - how many other all time greats did Sampras face in those finals? Nadal has won 5 of the 7 against Federer & Djokovic, one against Soderling - the only guy to have beaten him on best of 5. These aren't mugs - the former are incredible players who'd have FAR more claycourt titles if it wasn't for Nadal stopping them every time.

7 Wimbledons, 7 RGs - both are VERY impressive. Nadal takes it IMO as he has 7 in 8 appearances, vs 7 in 14 appearances for Sampras. Nadal's number may go down but he probably won't get to 14 appearances anyway so his % will always be higher.
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