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Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

I'm going to preface this by saying that after Federer, Murray is my second favorite player on tour but unlike a lot of people I have the ability to view sports from a pretty neutral perspective.

At first this is going to sound like a pretty preposterous statement since Murray has made numerous GS finals and SF appearances but I think thats because he is incredibly talented and his work ethic is second to none on tour. He puts in the hours, he has the physical tools, and he's been given a lot of help from the London Lawn and Tennis Association

But really, I can't think of a bigger choker than this guy. Theres some guys that have "choked" away some big chances. David Nalbandian comes to mind, Tommy Haas, definitely Nikolay Davydenko amongst guys that have reached the prestigious honor being ranked in the top 5 of the world for atleast one week of their lives.

With that being said, theres no question that Murray lacks the "clutch gene". In fact other than the beating he's taken at RG where he was never really in the match almost every single GS exit that Murray has had has been because he falls apart and its all between the ears.
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

In GS finals that is maybe true, but look at the semi against Djokovic at the AO this year. He was a set and a break down, managed to get back into it and again in the 5th set he was 5-2 and got it back to 5 all. In the past he maybe would have fallen apart in that match but this time he never.

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In GS finals that is maybe true, but look at the semi against Djokovic at the AO this year. He was a set and a break down, managed to get back into it and again in the 5th set he was 5-2 and got it back to 5 all. In the past he maybe would have fallen apart in that match but this time he never.
Yeah I said with the exception of that match mate but no question he choked badly against Ferrer.

Yes Ferrer is the better player on the surface and in sparkling form whereas Murray hasn't been great the last few months but still, the manner of how he goes about losing is antonishing.

Last year at Flushing Meadows he was literally choking away a potential victory against Nadal on a surface he should own Nadal on. Instead, he gets blasted away in 4 sets that were not even close.

A few months later, on a similar surface in Tokyo, he loses the first set then goes on to win 12 of the next 14 games including bagelling Nadal in the final set en route to the title.

In Grand Slams, its hard to find anyone who has choked more than Murray.
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

Beware, this is a post from 2008.
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He is the biggest mug in tennis history for sure

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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

He just want to become the GSOAT. And he is going to do it
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

he will win a slam, i am certain.

his game has too much variety and class, lendl will get him there mentally.
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

I'm beginning to believe this 'has the ability, doesn't have the mental strength' theory less and less.

Other guys don't show their true colors in masters, so he can win them. In slams they step it up, and he's not good enough

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There are plenty of bigger chokers. Tim henman for example. Murray has lost to a 10GS winner a 5GS winner and a 16GS winner at many of his majors. No shame to lose to them.

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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

he is not only a choker he is not good enough

Congrats to Roger Federer on his 17th record breaking GS title and becoming the best player that ever played on grass and breaking number 1 record.You deserve it Roger
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

Ferrer has been top 5. And yeah, plenty worse.



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Ferrer is biggest choker IMO
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

I don't think that's an accurate statement. I don't think he always performs his best at Slams, but overall I think he is not at the same level as Fed/Nadal/Djok. At his very best he can challenge them in BO5, especially Djokovic given that he matches up better against him than the other two when at their best, but it is hard for him to sustain the type of tennis required over amount of time. When in the zone, his offensive tennis is incredible and very penetrating, but it's hard for him to get there and stay there.

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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

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Ferrer has been top 5. And yeah, plenty worse.
Yes, not to be short sighted but I have to agree with you, he's up there.

He's choked a ton
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Re: Andy Murray Biggest Choker In Top 5 History?

Definitely not a choker. If anything he is playing at his level or in my opinion above it. A couple of masters win every season have kept him at number 4 and by virtue of this ranking he makes it to the last four where he is invariably knocked out. He is not a great player, he is a very good one who might win a Slam if something happens to the top 3 (injury etc).
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