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Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

The french open and wimbledon are only 2 weeks apart, they are the 2 grand slams that are the closest together and because of the entry list for wimbledon being made when it is it doesnt take into account how the rankings might change for wimbledon. Players that would normally get direct entry if they have a strong french open have to play qualies or hope for a wild card into wimbledon


the australian and the french are 14 weeks apart

wimbledon and US open are 8 weeks apart

So my question is should the entry list for wimbledon be made after The french open is over or maybe should the entry lists for all the grand slams be made later than they are?

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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry list of wimbledon?

No.

It happened with Kubot last year too and I think if a player has that good form, he can get easily into MD by winning qualy matches. Of course I know the pressure is a deciding factor as well but honestly, every entry list is out 6 weeks before the tournament, Wimby can't be an exception.

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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

While I agree that there shouldn't be an exception regarding the cut-off, it would make sense for Wimbledon to use WCs on players who would easily qualify with their post-FO ranking. They should have with Kubot last year.

Haas and Goffin are the two (not counting borderline ranking) who have that issue this year.

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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

So Wimbledon should go out of its way to incorporate CLAY results in choosing the entry list? It would make more sense if they just ignored clay results completely...
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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

I think that the only way to solve this issue would be to change the schedule.
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I think that the only way to solve this issue would be to change the schedule.
i agree that is the best way to handle it, there shouldn't such a valuable tournament so close to another valuable tournament that it entirely ignores one of the biggest results of the season as far as benefits of getting into the draw

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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

I was thinking about this. For the 6-week entry rule stay in place, Wimbledon will have to move 2 weeks back and RG move 2 weeks earlier. Hard to see how that'd happen.


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I was thinking about this. For the 6-week entry rule stay in place, Wimbledon will have to move 2 weeks back and RG move 2 weeks earlier. Hard to see how that'd happen.
why would that be such a stretch? there's a ton of time in between the 2 so there's space to work with.
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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

But it works the other way too, if you are ranked 88 before Roland Garros, you get into RG and Wimbledon even if your ranking after RG is 115, so really it balances, one year you miss and the next year you make it undeservedly.

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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

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While I agree that there shouldn't be an exception regarding the cut-off, it would make sense for Wimbledon to use WCs on players who would easily qualify with their post-FO ranking. They should have with Kubot last year.

Haas and Goffin are the two (not counting borderline ranking) who have that issue this year.
Well considering Wimbledon is very unorthodox, they may just to that. They have a habit of players that may reach deep that giving to their own that may not do anything.
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But it works the other way too, if you are ranked 88 before Roland Garros, you get into RG and Wimbledon even if your ranking after RG is 115, so really it balances, one year you miss and the next year you make it undeservedly.
I fail to see how this makes it okay. It makes it even worse actually.

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6 weeks is too much.

4 would be more fair.

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I think they should make the entry lists 3 years in adavnce

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Re: Should more time be taken to compose the entry lists of the slams?

No, the OP is just worried about Goffin not getting into Wimbledon.

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So Wimbledon should go out of its way to incorporate CLAY results in choosing the entry list? It would make more sense if they just ignored clay results completely...
10+ years ago yes it would be strange but now, Wimbledon and RG are practically the same surface, so yes it makes sense to incorporate clay results.
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