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Question You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????--But Coria Will

For 1: its not indoors, not on Carpet, nor are the courts gonna be anything as fast as they were in Frankfurt.

Here's what happened in the 1994 Finals
lucky Alberto wasnt in the other group

saying that, put Gaston in that other group today ( i mean the KILLER GP) with the same guys, Gaston would likely to suffer the same fate, even though they've retired.


1994/Frankfurt, Germany -- 15–20 November 1994 -- Surface: Carpet
White Group: Boris Becker, Pete Sampras, Stefan Edberg, Goran Ivanisevic. Red Group: Andre Agassi, Sergi Bruguera, Michael Chang, Alberto Berasategui. Round Robin: Bruguera d. Chang 76(1) 75; Becker d. Ivanisevic 63 36 76(5); Agassi d. Berasategui 62 60; Chang d. Berasategui 61 60; Becker d. Sampras 75 75; Edberg d. Ivanisevic 63 64; Sampras d. Edberg 46 63 76(3); Agassi d. Chang 64 64; Bruguera d. Berasategui 63 62; Sampras d. Ivanisevic 63 64; Becker d. Edberg 67(3) 64 75; Agassi d. Bruguera 64 16 63.
Semifinals: Sampras d. Agassi 46 76(5) 63; Becker d. Bruguera 67(5) 64 61.
Final: Sampras d. Becker 46 63 75 64.
Prize Money: Sampras (4-1) $1,225,000; Becker (4-1) $665,000; Agassi (3-1) $345,000; Bruguera (2-2) $255,000; Chang (1-2) $165,000; Edberg (1-2) $165,000; Berasategui (0-3) $75,000; Ivanisevic (0-3) $75,000.

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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

at doing a Berasategui.

If he was in the other group, he wouldn't have done better on that super fast surface. I mean it was faster than the grass at Wimbledon and that is stupid.

Gaston will win a set and at least 9 games in his matches.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

Everybody wrote Costa off in 2002 and he did himself proud, despite not making the semis. It was Marat who flopped all of his matches that year.

Frankly, that is reason enough for me not to write Gaudio off and assume he's going to be totally uncompetitive against the other top players.

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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

Gaudio might even do better than Coria, if Coria plays

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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

don't be hating on Gaston. he is a terrific, talented player. i hope he plays well in Houston -- i'm planning to be there to see him.

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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

becca, I am not totally writing him off at all and TBE was taking the piss out of these posters who will think he'll be that bad.

He has had good wins on hardcourts and has troubled all the players that will be there except Henman.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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becca, I am not totally writing him off at all and TBE was taking the piss out of these posters who will think he'll be that bad.

He has had good wins on hardcourts and has troubled all the players that will be there except Henman.
I know that nobody so far in this thread is writing him off, I'm just saying that I won't be either even though some people will make the mistake of doing so. TBE learned his lesson with Costa

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I know that nobody so far in this thread is writing him off, I'm just saying that I won't be either even though some people will make the mistake of doing so. TBE learned his lesson with Costa
I don't give a crap about people's perceptions actually.

I mean if Gaudio can beat Agassi clearly on a hardcourt and cause Federer plenty of problems in Montreal, he knows Nalbandian, Safin and Moya. When Potato was number 1 he took a set off him in their only hardcourt match, so that should be some ammo that he is not as bad as Alberto in that tournament.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

If it was on clay Gaston would have a shot

It's on hard and with his results on hard currently he will struggle to win sets let alone matches

In a way it's a shame for Gaston cos he is a really good player on his day and his backhand is wonderful but I doubt he can do anything at Houston, although I hope he can show the crowd he's there for a good reason rather than a fluke

If Coria plays and Gaudio does better than him although Im hoping that Coria is has far away from Houston has possible when it starts
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I don't give a crap about people's perceptions actually.

I mean if Gaudio can beat Agassi clearly on a hardcourt and cause Federer plenty of problems in Montreal, he knows Nalbandian, Safin and Moya. When Potato was number 1 he took a set off him in their only hardcourt match, so that should be some ammo that he is not as bad as Alberto in that tournament.
I'm a little confused. Are we a part of the same conversation here? Because we agree, yet you seem to be... not in agreement, even though you clearly are? I'm so very confused.

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I'm a little confused. Are we a part of the same conversation here? Because we agree, yet you seem to be... not in agreement, even though you clearly are? I'm so very confused.

I probably just need sleep.
I was laughing at the thread Eggy created and no he won't be as bad as Alberto. It doesn't mean I think he is going to win the thing

Gaston has had good wins on hardcourt as I said with Agassi and troubled Federer and Potato. I mean he gets slapped by Henman, but we don't know the make up of the groups. I agree with Sjengster in the way, he'll win a match and therefore be better than Berasategui.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I know that nobody so far in this thread is writing him off, I'm just saying that I won't be either even though some people will make the mistake of doing so. TBE learned his lesson with Costa
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Imagine if they played them on the old wood courts, then Gaston would be stuffed.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I was laughing at the thread Eggy created and no he won't be as bad as Alberto. It doesn't mean I think he is going to win the thing

Gaston has had good wins on hardcourt as I said with Agassi and troubled Federer and Potato. I mean he gets slapped by Henman, but we don't know the make up of the groups. I agree with Sjengster in the way, he'll win a match and therefore be better than Berasategui.
But like.... I know all that. So ... huh?

Nevermind. I'm clearly incapable of understanding how to communicate at the moment. It happens.

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Re: You really think Gaston will do a Berasategui ????

He's not that bad , but he started too late (BTW, Javier Frana said Gaudio's father was ill). Costa had to fight against ToJo in 2002 for a chance and was at better shape thn Gaston now, who needs more matches. He already lost at Basel so his last chance is a good run in Paris. Anyway, Houston is slower but i think some wins are really important

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