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View Poll Results: Which Federer is better, 2012 or 2009?
Federer 2012. He's been absolutely dominant to start the year and he's beating better players. 19 40.43%
Federer 2009. Its pretty simple. He reached 4 GS finals won 2 GSs. 21 44.68%
The same. 7 14.89%
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Federer 2009 v. Federer 2012

On the surface, this seems like it would not even be a contest. In 2009, Federer compiled a 61-12 record, reached the final of every GS, won 2 GS's, won the career GS, and beat Nadal on clay, and won 2 AMS1000 events. On paper, one of the greatest single seasons ever.

Records in tennis though often times don't tell the story about how well a player is playing. Even though he won his one and only French Open that year, Nadal was injured at Roland Garros and didn't even play Wimbledon. At the French, Fed struggled mightily going 4 sets with Acasuso and Mathieu and went the distance against Del Potro and Haas. In fact, against Haas Fed was down 2 sets and was in trouble deep in the 3rd.

At Wimbledon, Federer probably had his easiest road to the title playing the likes of Kohlscrieber, Karlovic, Haas and eventually Roddick where he was just barely able to hold on.

After Wimbledon, Fed's up and down play continued as Fed blew a huge lead at Flushing Meadows chasing a USO title and 2009 was the last year that Roger didn't win the WTF.

Compare that to early 2012 where Federer has already won an AMS 1000 event (probably 2 after today), has 7 wins over top 10 players, and has seemed almost unbeatable at times.

I've watched the majority of Federers matches thus far this year and I remember his level in 2009 and in my mind theres absolutely zero question that 2012 Federer is playing A LOT better than 2009 Fed but it will be extremely difficult for him to accomplish half of what he did in 2012. Thats how well the rest of the tour is playing.
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Re: Federer 2009 v. Federer 2012

Olderer didn't deserve any slams after AO 2007, sadly players were either injured or choked against him (W2007, USO 2007)
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Fed got gifted the two slams, by Rafa's injury and Roddick choking it up. He's actually pretty impressive this year, it's just that when he meets Rafa/Nole in a slam, they step it up and he's toast.

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It's Federer 2012. And that's not because Fed got lucky as some idiots above might suggest. In 2009, Fed's passive game had reached its peak and this led to him losing the almost won final against JMDP. The Federer of today has everything better than the one in 2009 except possibly recovery powers.


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Olderer didn't deserve any slams after AO 2007, sadly players were either injured or choked against him (W2007, USO 2007)

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Olderer didn't deserve any slams after AO 2007, sadly players were either injured or choked against him (W2007, USO 2007)
I'm surprised you say that he deserved AO 2007. It was a cakedraw for him and no one even turned up to play. If they did, they would have roasted him

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'05-'06 Fed would crush either of them.
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I think that the Federer from 2011 was overall better than the Federer from 2009, which I think was his worst year tennis-wise together with 2010 since 2003, but for 2012 it's too early to say, it's just the beginning of the year.

Fed this year has not been great yet (well, except Indian Wells semifinal and Rotterdam final, that's already something ), he was great in some matches last year (esp. RG and US Open)

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I'm surprised you say that he deserved AO 2007. It was a cakedraw for him and no one even turned up to play. If they did, they would have roasted him
I am a reasonable poster, bro. Not a hater.

I can admit Olderer played well and deserved it.

However after that he relied only on serve (W 2009), injury (W 2007), choke (US 2007) and beating Mugs (US 2008, AO 2010) to win his slams.
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I am a reasonable poster, bro. Not a hater.

I can admit Olderer played well and deserved it.

However after that he relied only on serve (W 2009), injury (W 2007), choke (US 2007) and beating Mugs (US 2008, AO 2010) to win his slams.
He didn't play one single decent player in AO 2007. Everyone in the draw was burnt out with long matches in early rounds and a few fixing mugs here and there, so how would you know he deserved it in the end?

I will admit this though, when he won USO 2008 and AO 2010 he did a good deed in stopping Mugray from winning a slam. Mugray had bigger flukes in his runs to the final than Federer's 16 GS glories combined.

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I'm surprised you say that he deserved AO 2007. It was a cakedraw for him and no one even turned up to play. If they did, they would have roasted him
Gonzo was playing brilliantly in that tournament. Fed also schooled Nole and Roddick that event.

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Olderer didn't deserve any slams after AO 2007, sadly players were either injured or choked against him (W2007, USO 2007)
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Fed got gifted the two slams, by Rafa's injury and Roddick choking it up.
And how many slams does Federer gifted to Nadal etc by choking up? be silent Rafatards.
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Gonzo was playing brilliantly in that tournament. Fed also schooled Nole and Roddick that event.
I wish Gonzo won that, he was awesome throughout. But I knew he'd fold so badly against Fed in the final. He should have had that first set, then who knows.... Fed getting lucky again, how surprising . I'm sure Doc would agree

Anyways Novak back then was no where near as complete as he is today and Roddick is...Roddick.

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Re: Federer 2009 v. Federer 2012

I wonder what Moonballnurse would say about Nadull's slams after AO '09, that he won against pre peak Novak, and slamless chokers like Berdych, Sod, and Murray.
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