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Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

Fire away!

Players: They actually play and know how the surface prepares them for the grandslams.

Corporate sponsors: The people whose moolah makes tennis possible.

Spectators/tv: We make the corporate sponsors actually want to invest.

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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

It should be the players, but by that I mean the surfaces should be varied enough to suit everyone.

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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

Mine.

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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

Does it matter really? The business people are happy all the same people making the finals of the big events, surface homogenisation makes it easier, making it easy to market even though the game has changed and not always for the better.

They don't give a crap about the fans, it's all about the cash.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

The GOAT of a particular era

So Nadal should decide the surfaces right now
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Should be around 4 : 1, players : sponsors votes.

If the fans want to influence things they can play Sims.
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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

Players are the ones who make the money and who the people want to see, not the sponsors.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Fans.
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I should

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Players and fans.

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Spectators and sponsors. The ones who finance the whole circus.
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All of the players- then we'd get diversity again.

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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

Truth to be told surfaces have always changed, I was almost going to say tradition should decide but then 3 out of 4 slams used to be played on grass, Usopen on green dirt and so on. I just wish there will always be one very fast big tournament and one very slow, master series fullfill this with Monte Carlo and Miami beeing very slow while Paris and Cincinatti are very fast. Slams dont really live up to this, RG should have larger balls and Wimbledon needs to be faster.

However what is more annoying than surfaces beeing what they are is all the whinning from alot of people about surfaces, trying to diminish any accomplishment by players they dont like using the excuse of surfaces beeing different than it used to be.

All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Truth to be told surfaces have always changed, I was almost going to say tradition should decide but then 3 out of 4 slams used to be played on grass, Usopen on green dirt and so on. I just wish there will always be one very fast big tournament and one very slow, master series fullfill this with Monte Carlo and Miami beeing very slow while Paris and Cincinatti are very fast. Slams dont really live up to this, RG should have larger balls and Wimbledon needs to be faster.

However what is more annoying than surfaces beeing what they are is all the whinning from alot of people about surfaces, trying to diminish any accomplishment by players they dont like using the excuse of surfaces beeing different than it used to be.


Clownish statement. But then again this comes from the same poster who said RN from 2010 would defeat Sampras at the USO in the 90s.


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Re: Whose opinion should matter the most in deciding the surface characteristics?

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Truth to be told surfaces have always changed, I was almost going to say tradition should decide but then 3 out of 4 slams used to be played on grass, Usopen on green dirt and so on. I just wish there will always be one very fast big tournament and one very slow, master series fullfill this with Monte Carlo and Miami beeing very slow while Paris and Cincinatti are very fast. Slams dont really live up to this, RG should have larger balls and Wimbledon needs to be faster.

However what is more annoying than surfaces beeing what they are is all the whinning from alot of people about surfaces, trying to diminish any accomplishment by players they dont like using the excuse of surfaces beeing different than it used to be.
I think back to 2003 and I think surfaces were fine as they were then. Fixing something that isn't broken has spoiled the game.

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