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Nadal more than 15 matches ahead. 108 40.15%
Nadal 13-14 matches ahead. 25 9.29%
Nadal 11-12 matches ahead. 20 7.43%
Nadal 9-10 matches ahead. 20 7.43%
Nadal 7-8 matches ahead. 20 7.43%
Nadal 5-6 matches ahead. 19 7.06%
Nadal 3-4 matches ahead. 5 1.86%
Nadal 1-2 matches ahead. 1 0.37%
Equal 4 1.49%
Federer ahead 47 17.47%
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Olympics is played at the peak of the season, WTF is played at the end of it when most of the big names are already burnout... look what happened last year.
What happened last year?
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So Rafa's lack of WTF title is a black hole in his resume but Fed's inability to win the Olympic Gold Medal in Singles because he got destroyed by non-Slam winners Murray, Blake and Berdych doesn't matter? Is that really what you are trying to say, Mr. Antonius?
You and logic... Federer had four opportunities to win OG and only three of them when he was among best players. Nadal this year will have his seventh to win WTF, I guess that maybe he`d participate in 3-4 WTF more.
It doesn`t need to be a genious to understand what is harder to win for objective reasons due to impossibility to take part in OG more times then in WTF.

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What happened last year?
The perhaps greatest player of all time won it for the sixth time, overcoming the top 8 (including squashing Nadal) in a convincing fashion.

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We should be appreciative of Federer though, because we will never see anything like him again. The fact he can still compete for slams ever after the erosion of his physical skills is really a greater testament to the natural talent he has than the period of time when he was dominating the tour.
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You're really not that smart, are you.

When Fed retires he will have had the chance to win the olympic gold a total of 3 times (the last of those was when he was over 30). He failed.

When Nadal retires he will have had the chance to win the YEC (which IS a more prestigious tennis tournament than the olympics whatever you delusional Nadaltards may claim) a total of maybe 8-10 times. If he hasn't won it by then... you tell me who is the bigger failure of these two.

Also it warms my heart to see Chair Umpire coming out of his cave... have been in hiding lately will Nadal being Rosol'd and all

I see you haven't been able to answer my question just like your trollish friend durrrrrrrrrr.

And I also love your (fail of a)logic: Since the WTF is played every year, Nadal's more of a failure when he can't win it. But since the Olympic's are held every 4 years, Fed's failure isn't that bad.

Your logic can easily be reversed and say that the Olympics are more special and important because it's only held every 4 years which makes Nadal's success there even more important and special.

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Debatable... Look who you have to defeat in the draw at the Olympics vs WTF.

You don't even need to win all your matches to win the WTF.

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You don't even need to win all your matches to win the WTF.
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You don't even need to win all your matches to win the WTF.
You need to beat the best. Chances is that you won't have to face the Gonzalez of this world to claim the title
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The perhaps greatest player of all time won it for the sixth time, overcoming the top 8 (including squashing Nadal) in a convincing fashion.
That's what I thought... Anything else?
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What happened last year?
Nole and Nadal being in poor form. Nole even lost to Tipsarevic which is a joke. How many more matches did they have to play through the season compared to the other participants??
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You don't even need to win all your matches to win the WTF.
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Nole and Nadal being in poor form. Nole even lost to Tipsarevic which is a joke. How many more matches did they have to play through the season compared to the other participants??
shut up you bunch of bitter Nadal fanboy

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Fed won there once beating #1 Nadal, #3 Nole, #4 Muzza, #5 Soderling, #6 Ferrer in all five matches (he was the #2) , tell me anywhere else you can win a title having to beat all your other fellow top 6 in a row
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Nole and Nadal being in poor form. Nole even lost to Tipsarevic which is a joke. How many more matches did they have to play through the season compared to the other participants??
How do you explain Federer's success over there?
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Federer was of course nr.1 at the olympics in 2004, however he was unfortunate enough to run into Berdych, a player who would become a solid top tenner in the coming years.
Rafa had to play Djoko in 2008 a player who has become a solid topthreener and a grand slam winner in the following years.
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I see you haven't been able to answer my question just like your trollish friend durrrrrrrrrr.

And I also love your (fail of a)logic: Since the WTF is played every year, Nadal's more of a failure when he can't win it. But since the Olympic's are held every 4 years, Fed's failure isn't that bad.
Stop putting words in my mouth Matty, I've said it before, you're not smart enough.

That Federer lacks the olympic gold is of course a small blemish on his resumé but like I said, since the OG is only held every 4 years it is at least UNDERSTANDABLE that he failed to win it.

It is not as understandable that Nadal who has played the WTF 6 times has not been able to win it, especially since he according to his quality fanboys is a GOAT contender.

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Your logic can easily be reversed and say that the Olympics are more special and important because it's only held every 4 years which makes Nadal's success there even more important and special.
No, my logic is not "easily reversed". We are talking TENNIS here. In TENNIS, the YEC has much history and is worth more ranking points than the olympics. Tennis players dream about winning slams and qualifying for the YEC when they are kids. They do not aim towards the olympics, like participants of many other sports do. Me and every other person with a brain here is very much aware that you would also acknowledge this fact if only you weren't bent on defending Nadal blindly in every and all situations.

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We should be appreciative of Federer though, because we will never see anything like him again. The fact he can still compete for slams ever after the erosion of his physical skills is really a greater testament to the natural talent he has than the period of time when he was dominating the tour.
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