Originally Posted by evilmindbulgaria
Show me a -8 H2H of Rafa, pleeeaaase
The difference between Sampras, Rafa, and Federer is that Rafa and Pete were nobody's bitch
Sure, there are a couple of players with positive H2H against them, but noone has ever spanked either Rafa or Pete 18 out of 28 times
Again, -8 is not bad. If it was 0-8, then that would indeed be bad. However, 10-18 is by no means bad. Also, it's already been stated many times that half of their 28 meetings were on clay, and 5/8 Grand Slam wins by Nadal were at the French Open. The explanation for this is very simple - Nadal is the GOAT on clay. Also, Nadal was not making the finals of the Australian Open and US Open in 2004-2007 to face Federer (also not making many of the Masters 1000 hard court tournament finals), which were very clearly Federer's peak years on outdoor hard courts. Federer and Nadal were ranked no. 1 and no. 2 respectively, and so they could only meet in the final.
Furthermore, H2H is relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of looking at who is the GOAT. If you look at history, no one remembers or discusses who had positive H2H records against Sampras, Borg or Laver. They only remember that they were great champions with amazing records. I can tell you that eg. Kuerten would have something like an 18-10 record against Sampras if they had faced off more on clay courts.
Anyway, as I've said before, there're always holes to be poked in any GOAT candidate. Laver played most Grand Slams on grass and played in an era where "professional" tennis was no where near the level it is now. Borg never won the Australian or US Open (tried 9 times to win the US Open, reached 4 finals, but failed every time). Sampras never won the French Open and basically has had all his significant records equalled or surpassed by Federer. Federer has a losing H2H record against his greatest rival and has only won the French Open once (sorry, couldn't think of anything else!). Nadal has never won the Year-End Championships and apart from records on clay courts, he doesn't hold any other significant records.
When the dust is settled, you'd have to pick Federer as the GOAT. Sure, you can poke holes into this, but with Federer, there are very few holes to be poked!