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so fed would not beat nadal at RG in 100 tries when he had 4 years out of 5 when he had a chance to take it to 5 sets? and rome 2006 when he took it to match points?

need to work on math seriously.
You need to work on your tennis knowledge, Federer winning 3/5 sets against Nadal on clay, not going to happen. You mention Rome 06, when Fed was in his absolute peak, and Nadal was just a kid. And even then Nadal clutched it out.

He couldn't beat him then, he can't beat him now, he won't beat him later.

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so if they played 100 RG's...made 80 finals and fed had mp at 6 matches. a total of 30 mp he is not going to convert one? fed has taken sets>games>point.
if you can take a point in theory you can be defeated.

we are talking about "chances" not if he will. of course given the low chances he probably won't...doesn't mean he "can't".

100-0 means a player can't defeat another which makes me believe people here don't know anything about math.

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You need to work on your tennis knowledge, Federer winning 3/5 sets against Nadal on clay, not going to happen. You mention Rome 06, when Fed was in his absolute peak, and Nadal was just a kid. And even then Nadal clutched it out.

He couldn't beat him then, he can't beat him now, he won't beat him later.
dude no trolling.

we are talking about chances here. not "he will beat him"...
of course you can't understand not surprised.

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so if they played 100 RG's...made 80 finals and fed had mp at 6 matches. a total of 30 mp he is not going to convert one? fed has taken sets>games>point.
if you can take a point in theory you can be defeated.

we are talking about "chances" not if he will. of course given the low chances he probably won't...doesn't mean he "can't".

100-0 means a player can't defeat another which makes me believe people here don't know anything about math.
They don't. That's why I said it's stupid to put these numbers. The sample size of their matches is not sufficiently big enough for these numbers to hold any relevance, even if true.


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affirmative and there's too much MTF overreaction anyways.

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we won't miss the clay pig either who needs his uncle to threaten the life of the sport.

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In RG it is 100-0 to Nadal vs Federer. No way Roger will win a RG GS final vs Nadal best of 5 sets.
and btw, they won't play 100 finals there, that's why it's 100-0.

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In RG it is 100-0 to Nadal vs Federer. No way Roger will win a RG GS final vs Nadal best of 5 sets.
and btw, they won't play 100 finals there, that's why it's 100-0.
Its only decided by a few points here and there. Fed has like 35% chance of winning. The odds don't suggest 100-0, every time the bookmaker gives Federer less than 1 pays 3 against Nadal on clay. You can bet the juicy 1.30 on Nadal every time though but as there r more and more meetings Nadal has high chance to be caught out. In my exp he will be caught out in less than 8 meetings and i am saying RG only.

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If i was a gambling company i would give Nadal 1.01 and Roger 15.00 to win in a RG GS best of 5 final between them.
It is decided by few points allways, but allways it's Nadal who is going to win in that points.

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Re: Chances of winning in matches between Federer-Nadal-Djokovic in all Grand Slams

Federer-Nadal

AO: 30-70
RG: 10-90
W: 45-55 (remember the H2H here is 2-1 Fed)
US: 50-50

Nadal-Djokovic

AO: 35-65
RG: 60-40
W: 55-45
USO: 30-70

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AO: 75-25
RG: 55-45
W: 35-65
USO: 55-45

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Re: Chances of winning in matches between Federer-Nadal-Djokovic in all Grand Slams

Federer-Nadal

AO: 20-80
RG: 5-95
W: 25-75
USO: 30-70

Nadal-Djokovic

AO: 30-70
RG: 60-40
W: 40-60
USO: 25-75

Djokovic-Federer

AO: 85-15
RG: 60-40
W: 50-50
USO: 60-40

Federer's 5% chance against Nadal at R.G. is factoring in the risk that Nadal might be tired, injured, or suddenly become insane.

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Re: Chances of winning in matches between Top 4 in all Grand Slams (Welcome Andy Murr

Ok, the last events definitely put Murray closer than ever to becoming a player at the same level as the top 3. Time to add him here.
I also updated a couple of my choices

Federer - Nadal
AO: 40-60
RG: 10-90
W: 60-40
USO: 75-25

Djokovic - Murray
AO: 65-35
RG: 75-25
W: 42-58
USO: 50-50

Federer - Murray
AO: 60-40
RG: 75-25
W: 68-32
USO: 56-44

Nadal - Djokovic
AO: 45-55
RG: 75-25
W: 45-55
USO: 40-60

Federer - Djokovic
AO: 45-55
RG: 45-55
W: 90-10
USO: 65-35

Nadal - Murray
AO: 60-40
RG: 95-5
W: 52-48
USO: 48-52


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Re: Chances of winning in matches between Top 4 in all Grand Slams (Welcome Andy Murr

Federer - Nadal
AO: 45-55
RG: 10-90
W: 56-44
USO: 60-40 (in this USO bcs of Nadals lack of play, otherwise I would give them 45-55)

Djokovic - Murray
AO: 60-40
RG: 75-25
W: 45-55
USO: 55-45

Federer - Murray
AO: 55-45
RG: 75-25
W: 53-47
USO: 55-45

Nadal - Djokovic
AO: 43-57
RG: 70-30
W: 50-50
USO: 46-54

Federer - Djokovic
AO: 40-60
RG: 35-65
W: 63-37
USO: 44-56

Nadal - Murray
AO: 60-40
RG: 95-5
W: 55-45
USO: 50-50

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Re: Chances of winning in matches between Top 4 in all Grand Slams (Welcome Andy Murr

fed-nadal

AO- 90-10
RG- 45-55
WIM 95-5
US 100-0

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ao- 99.999999-0.000001
RG 99.9999998-0.000002
WIM 99.999999-0.000001
US- 99.999999-0.000001

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