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As I write in a recent thread, being attacked for it by vast hordes of Fedtrolls, we soon will have news about this isue. Nadal was putting all his energies in this matter and the rest of players was supporting him, and they finally has gotten results. It was that or the strike. What a figther this Rafa, what a man! Vamos!
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Maybe Federer and Nadal did a bit of the "good cop, bad cop" routine...

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Here is the ATP response to the 7% French Open prize money increase. "It’s encouraging to see an increase for this year, however the ATP and players remain focused on discussions with the Grand Slams about 2013 and beyond as a top priority." So clearly ATP putting Slams on notice moves like the French Open's should only be viewed as small first step. Also notable spokesperson used phrase "a top priority."
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This is the first sentence of this article and you do not you bother to read it?
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many top-100 players were unhappy about the prizemoney concern in Melbourne, it's not Nadal who was unhappy with that, it was many many players (has never been Nadal's priority but yes he talked for a strike together with other players)

My hypothesis is precisely what Scarecrows said and which I had already said in the thread about Nadal's resignment from the council :

the council told the players that they were starting negotiations with the slams for the prize money (it has been said by Neil Harman that Federer and Djokovic were discussing with Wimbledon officials),

then the players thought "OK let's see what happens"

they had hopes and didn't care anymore about Nadal's other plans (remember Stakhovsky : "I support the two-year ranking system because it protects my ranking ... but if I get what I want for the prize money in slams I don't support it anymore as I have already enough and it's clearly not a good idea in principle"), then Nadal felt he had no chance getting something on these points, that he had spent too much time on that and should focus on his tennis, and he resigned.

Meanwhile the negotiations did achieve something.

Yes probably the striking threats had a role in that, but Nadal was not the only player who supported the strike and his main concern was not this prize money.
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Re: Prize money increases in French Open 2012

I don't recall Rafa ever making a big fuss about lower-ranked players' prize money - for him, it was more about season length, and the two-year ranking system.

This is a good first step, and I fully expect Wim will either follow suit or even try to out-do RG in this dept.

Let's not turn this into a Roger/Rafa argument. It's clearly bigger than either of them.
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"It’s not been an option really, in my opinion,” Federer said of a potential strike. “It was brought up a few months ago, the whole boycott thing. It’s nonsense. It’s not going to happen any time soon. Things are good right now, so I don’t see a reason why we should just boycott. There’s absolutely no reason for it.
It was the menace of a strike by the players which has achieved this. We will know more details soon, so wait and see.

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It was the menace of a strike by the players which has achieved this. We know the details soon, so wait and see.
I said it's likely that the menace of the strike played a role, but as for Nadal he "didn't put all of his energy in that", he resigned while the ATP and the still existing council were discussing with the slams.

What we heard is that Federer and Djokovic were discussing with Wimbledon officials, not Nadal.

In a way you can say like someone did that Fed and Nadal played the bad cop/good cop routine but I think it's more complex and bigger than them as somebody said, and the main role was actually played by the ATP (who clearly is in big support of the players here as Guichard showed) and the group of the top-100 players, not Federer and Nadal who both played a public little role in that, the "good cop" and the "bad cop" in a way, but most of the work was done by the ATP.

Nadal had other vast plans for which he worked a lot, yes, and for them he supported the idea of a strike, but as soon as the other players got what they actually wanted, his calls for strike had no support anymore, and that's why he resigned.

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Hopefully Federer is taking notes.
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Lol, never in doubt that the idiotic Nadaltards won't be late in making up stuff along the way.
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I said it's likely that the menace of the strike played a role, but as for Nadal he "didn't put all of his energy in that", he resigned while the ATP and the still existing council were discussing with the slams.

What we heard is that Federer and Djokovic were discussing with Wimbledon officials, not Nadal.

In a way you can say like someone did that Fed and Nadal played the bad cop/good cop routine but I think it's more complex and bigger than them as somebody said, and the main role was actually played by the ATP (who clearly is in big support of the players here as Guichard showed) and the group of the top-100 players, not Federer and Nadal who both played a public little role in that, the "good cop" and the "bad cop" in a way, but most of the work was done by the ATP.

Nadal had other vast plans for which he worked a lot, yes, and for them he supported the idea of a strike, but as soon as the other players got what they actually wanted, his calls for strike had no support anymore, and that's why he resigned.
Came on guy, he resigned because he was tired of so much talk for nothing and to stay there to back his pansie president. And at the end of the day is a powerless organism so his move was a further pressure measurement and a warning.

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Re: Prize money increases in French Open 2012

I think such decisions are taken after meetings between ATP Officials and Player Representatives

As far as I know Nadal is not a part in any of those

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Prize money has been increasing for quite some time now. Guess those special increases of 10% and 20% for the first rounds are cool but still

Look at the figures from 2010 and 2011 http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/about/prizemoney.html

I think the top prizes could do without increase. They are fine the way they are. Additional money should be put into other rounds. Or be a bit nicer to QF, SF and F compared to the winner.

I think many lower ranked guys feel like they at least have a shot at QF with the right draw. Fognini did it in RG last year and got a nice payday. That dude hasn't been in a final in over 100 tournaments I think and still reached a QF. Many players around ranking 50 probably feel like winning is almost impossible but reaching R4, QF there is a chance so they would be happy if R4, QF got a bit more prize money

I think it's wrong too boost R1 too much. It's like getting free money for losing 15-20k will do
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if they want to push the issue further, then it is best to draw a potential boycott at the US Open, the slam that nobody cares about... money talks louder on US soil

rightly, it wasn't fair to boycott at the aussie open, as they have been the leading the GS prizemoney stakes for some years now...

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