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Withdrawing from Indian Wells and Miami-----and playing challengers in-between.

So, my favorite player Filippo Volandri had some physical issues after the Sao Paulo tournament and lost badly in Buenos Aires and Acapulco, not able to put forth performances due to a right ankle injury. So, Filippo withdrew from Indian Wells, but he entered the Rabat challenger to be played in Morocco in-between Indian Wells and Miami. He made the finals of Rabat, and although he took a medical timeout in his SF match vs Kuznetsov, receiving treatment on the ankle, he didn't show any obvious signs of injury.

Today, Filippo withdrew from Miami. But he is entered into the Barletta challenger to be played in two weeks time. So, what's the dilemma? Here we have a guy who withdrew from the two mandatory events on hardcourt in favor of playing two clay court challengers. What do you think about this? Personally, I have absolutely no issue with it because if Pippo is dealing with any ankle issue, playing on hardcourt will make it worse than playing on clay. Especially given the fact Pippo cannot win on hardcourt. He's 9-49 in his career on hardcourt. So, I see no issue with him choosing the challengers over the two mandatories.

Do you think Volandri should be penalized for doing this? Should the ATP look into why he's withdrawn from Indian Wells and Miami? Do you think anything could actually be done if the ATP wanted to investigate?
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Re: Withdrawing from Indian Wells and Miami-----and playing challengers in-between.

The ATP won't do anything just like they haven't with all those matches he has "allegedly" fixed over the years.
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Re: Withdrawing from Indian Wells and Miami-----and playing challengers in-between.

If someone withdraws with injury, he should not be allowed to enter a different tournament in the same week.

Given as it is, it's ok unless double standards arise (if the ATP starts suddenly fining some players for doing the same)
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Re: Withdrawing from Indian Wells and Miami-----and playing challengers in-between.

He hasn't.
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Re: Withdrawing from Indian Wells and Miami-----and playing challengers in-between.

He hasn't done that, Arsen, not necessarily, at least. What's going on is, basically, Filippo has entered two events while withdrawing from two mandatory events. He's playing events while simultaneously withdrawing from events due to a supposed injury. So obviously, there is a bit of a conundrum there. Is Pippo actually injured or is he just not wanting to play on hardcourt. It wouldn't be a huge issue if Indian Wells and Miami were not mandatory events, but they are.
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He's done nothing wrong. He has an injury.
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Re: Withdrawing from Indian Wells and Miami-----and playing challengers in-between.

It's not a huge issue even as it is, unless the ATP starts selectively investigating and punishing players for similar things...

I don't think the other players care much for this either...
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What's the issue? Volandri is allowed to play the challengers even if he played in IW and Miami.
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He's done nothing wrong. He has an injury.
I agree.
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Do you think Volandri should be penalized for doing this? Should the ATP look into why he's withdrawn from Indian Wells and Miami? Do you think anything could actually be done if the ATP wanted to investigate?
He gets penalized. He gets two 0's in the rankings.

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It's not a huge issue even as it is, unless the ATP starts selectively investigating and punishing players for similar things...

I don't think the other players care much for this either...
I totally agree, personally, I don't see the issue whatsoever. He does have an injury, and he's chosen the events that are more palatable for he to play. And I definitely doubt the players care much if at all. But, it's something that could have others thinking differently than we may, I'm curious to see if everyone thinks the way I do or if they consider it an actual issue that should be investigated.
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He gets penalized. He gets two 0's in the rankings.
That's also true and this is definitely harmful to Filippo as he's going to have to do extra in his other events to erase the damage of these two zero-pointers.
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I think you should find a new favorite player
Hell no, Pippo has always been my #1 and always will be.
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So, my favorite player Filippo Volandri
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