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What? He is sick. Are people not allowed to attribute his poor form to the fact that he has an illness? Is that a sign of tardism now, to consider the state of his health?

I'm not even sure what you're trying to get at here, your logic is so convoluted.
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People are sick all over the IW area; so many player withdrawals. Nothing so hard to believe about it affecting Fed as well. And when he won the second set, they showed Mirka in the stands and she was clapping and probably tried to yell "Allez" and then she had to put her hand over her mouth because she started coughing, poor thing.

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Promising match, but then Bellucci has never been completely out of his depth against the top players anyway. I wish he'd sort his head out soon.

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Federer's losses/struggles are attributed to sickness/decline/mono/Mirka's nail appointments, etc.
Nadal and Djokovic's losses/struggles are exclusively attributed to being outplayed.

Is that explicit enough?
One fact is made explicitly clear with that post. It was merely a confirmation to begin with.
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Federer's losses/struggles are attributed to sickness/decline/mono/Mirka's nail appointments, etc.
Nadal and Djokovic's losses/struggles are exclusively attributed to being outplayed.

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What forum have you been reading?
Nadal's struggles have been put down to getting out of a chair, having a lack of 'illusion', being tired after the SF (almost every time Federer beats him in a final this comes up), bad knees, bad foot, bad thumb, foot blisters, parents' divorce.

Nole's list is way longer, including contact lenses, and he didn't like the flowers at the Australian Open Too much pollen for the Spartan.
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People are sick all over the IW area; so many player withdrawals. Nothing so hard to believe about it affecting Fed as well. And when he won the second set, they showed Mirka in the stands and she was clapping and probably tried to yell "Allez" and then she had to put her hand over her mouth because she started coughing, poor thing.
If you watched closely, she attempted to shout 'Ajde!' before breaking off into coughing.
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Federer's losses/struggles are attributed to sickness/decline/mono/Mirka's nail appointments, etc.
Nadal and Djokovic's losses/struggles are exclusively attributed to being outplayed.

Is that explicit enough?
First of all, nobody here has made any mention of Nadal and Djokovic and their health during their losses. It seems that you are intent on making a sweeping generalization about people who follow Federer using his illness during this tournament as an example, when there is no evidence of this "hypocrisy" you are so intent on outing.

There have been times when Nadal has lost due to injury and people have given his ailment proper attribution. Same goes for Djokovic. So if you want to accuse Federer fans of being hypocrites for doing the same, I'm afraid it's you who is being hypocritical.

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What forum have you been reading?
Nadal's struggles have been put down to getting out of a chair, having a lack of 'illusion', being tired after the SF (almost every time Federer beats him in a final this comes up), bad knees, bad foot, bad thumb, foot blisters, parents' divorce.

Nole's list is way longer, including contact lenses, and he didn't like the flowers at the Australian Open Too much pollen for the Spartan.
But here's the thing: I don't make those excuses. The same people who make excuses for Federer are the same hypocrites saying that Nadal and Djokovic were simply in form and out played whenever they lose (no matter what the circumstances were).
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But here's the thing: I don't make those excuses. The same people who make excuses for Federer are the same hypocrites saying that Nadal and Djokovic were simply in form and out played.

Face the fact: you've lost the argument.

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Face the fact: you've lost the argument.
Wanna bet he won't face the fact?
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Face the fact: you've lost the argument.
What argument? That Fed fans aren't massive hypocrites?

What kind of a drive-by post is this supposed to be?
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Re: IW 4R Federer def. Bellucci 3-6 6-3 6-4

Roger is sick as a dog but no one is forcing him to play, so when he loses no one can blame the actual illness because he can WD

He has said it himself many times: if you're fit enough to show up, you're fit enough to play and there are no excuses.

I don't think he's getting past Del Potro, Rafa and Djokovic with this form, so he should just go to Miami and rest.

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What argument?...
It's all rationalized already...
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What argument? That Fed fans aren't massive hypocrites?

What kind of a drive-by post is this supposed to be?
Sorry that you didn't get it.

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What argument? That Fed fans aren't massive hypocrites?

What kind of a drive-by post is this supposed to be?
Observe exhibit A, an example of what is commonly known as Darth's Law of the Internet: If you have to insist that you've won an internet argument, you've probably lost badly.

Trolling is defined by Herring as baiting and luring others into pointless and time-consuming discussions.

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