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View Poll Results: WWW Federer vs. Raonic
Fed in straights 62 68.13%
Fed in three 7 7.69%
Raonic in straights 11 12.09%
Raonic in three 11 12.09%
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fed in two straightforward sets is what i am expecting, would like to see if raonic could surprise me though.
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Olderer to send this all serve mug back to Yugoslavia in 2 easy sets.
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Milos has never beaten a top 8 player. And he won't do it here.
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He has only played Nadal and Ferrer out of the top 8.
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Since when did Fish drop out of the top 8? Or are we only talking top 8 at the time that he beat them?

if that's the case then he's also played Roddick when Roddick was top 8, losing that epic Memphis final last year.

Also interesting that you cut off at 8 because he's beaten a number 9 player 3 times, and a number 10 player once. Their ranking at the time he beat them I mean

not saying these players compare to Fed but he has what it takes to beat borberline top 8 players and it's only a matter of time until he breaks right through to beating a top 5 player

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its going to take more than what milos has to beat roger

unless roger has an off day he should win this in straight sets
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Well Federer has that mysterious virus so who knows, Milos might have his lucky day.

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God in 3 sets, if he plays really aweful.

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He has only played Nadal and Ferrer out of the top 8.
Don't forget his losing effort to #8 Andy Roddick in Memphis 2011.

Other players that Raonic has managed to beat inside the top 30 have usually been players that are not playing on their favorite surface. For example, clay court players playing on indoor or outdoor hard. Or he has beaten somewhat inconsistent faster hard court players in slower conditions.

Obviously, he also has trouble winning against higher quality players with good return games, even on surfaces that might favor him (ala Memphis and his loss to #38 Melzer).

His "breakthrough" event was probably the 2011 Australian Open where he successively defeated #24 Michael Llodra and #10 Mikhail Youzhny, before losing to #7 David Ferrer.

He then beat #9 Fernando Verdasco two matches in a row in 2 successive Indoor Hard tourneys.

He then lost (inc. 1 retirement) to Verdasco in 2 clay court events and lost easily to David Ferrer on clay.

In 2012, he had his best tournament to date in India at Chennai Outdoor Hard successively beating #10 Almagro, and then #9 Tipsarevic in 3 tiebreakers where Raonic served extremely well.

So, I think it will be difficult for Raonic to beat #3 Federer unless Federer is too sick.
Raonic would probably have to serve at 80% first serves or better to have a chance, and then he would have to break Federer, or beat him in the tiebreakers. Also, Federer is quite good against big servers and once he has read their serve (usually within a few services games) he uses their own pace against them to often block return winners. It will be a very difficult task for Raonic. Federer should win in 2 sets, unless Raonic serves very well and can take Federer in a tiebreaker.

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Since when did Fish drop out of the top 8? Or are we only talking top 8 at the time that he beat them?

if that's the case then he's also played Roddick when Roddick was top 8, losing that epic Memphis final last year.

Also interesting that you cut off at 8 because he's beaten a number 9 player 3 times, and a number 10 player once. Their ranking at the time he beat them I mean

not saying these players compare to Fed but he has what it takes to beat borberline top 8 players and it's only a matter of time until he breaks right through to beating a top 5 player
Agree. He needs another breakthrough event.
The question is if and when that will happen.
The where doesn't matter so much at this point.
He is still young (just turned 21), so he probably still has a year or two to improve and break through.
He's a bit one dimensional at the moment, so he needs to improve his all around game to have a chance against top players.

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Probably Federer in 2, but I'll just say the Raonic in 3.
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Since when did Fish drop out of the top 8? Or are we only talking top 8 at the time that he beat them?

if that's the case then he's also played Roddick when Roddick was top 8, losing that epic Memphis final last year.

Also interesting that you cut off at 8 because he's beaten a number 9 player 3 times, and a number 10 player once. Their ranking at the time he beat them I mean

not saying these players compare to Fed but he has what it takes to beat borberline top 8 players and it's only a matter of time until he breaks right through to beating a top 5 player
Of course you count players ranking at the time for the meeting.
Milos got the game and the mind. Sure.
I guess I just wanted to illustrate he still has alot to prove against the bigger guys.
He's 0-6 against top 8 players and needs a win against the top guns to boost his confidence.
But he's got time on his side. Is he 22 this year?
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If Fed is sick, then Raonic has real chance, and through that, so does Kolya

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