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How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Murray currently leads it 8-7 but a lot could change in the next few years.

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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

I voted hesitantly for Murray. Had you asked this at the midpoint of 2011 I would have been more certain.

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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Another interesting question is: Will Federer retire as Nadal's turkey?
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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Murray, but it'll be close.
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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

More interresting am i when those 2 finally will play on other surface than HC, because it is raelly weird that 15/15 matches all on HC. I would love to see them to play at Wimbledon or olympics, i think it could be great match

About H2H Murray should win, already is leading 8-7 and Federer should decline in next 2-3years if he will play still.
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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Olderer will reverse his h2h against Pushray as he seems to have stopped tanking in MM
events and Olderer even at 50% is too much for the Scot grinder as Dubai final showed.
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I quote Kosh "In Flames"
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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

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Another interesting question is: Will Federer retire as Nadal's turkey?
More likely to say Nadal will retire having Fed (still active at that time) as a turkey. If Rafa will choose to play when his body will begin to crack (3 years from now, imho), Fed will have the chance to level a little bit of that lopsided h2h. But, knowing Rafa, he will retire when he will have the feeling that he is not a top 3 contender anymore.

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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Given the age advantage and the slowness of courts and conditions, Murray will be ahead.

But Fed might be ahead in matches that actually matter.

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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Of course Murray will be ahead because Federer will still play many years at an old age.

I know that some Fed-haters on MTF like Certinfy love that because these H2H statistical concepts are a big part of the daily conceptual debate on MTF,

but personally I'm just happy about that because I want Fed to play still for many years

I know it's hard to understand for many ones here who keep on bullshitting about "legacy" and so on (and also I keep on saying that the retirement presented as "ideal" of Sampras made a lot of harm to the pleasure about watching old players, in the media as well, in the context of a global society not accepting getting old),

but Federer is not a member of MTF forum : he lives his own life and his goals are to play longer, enjoy longer and sometimes win longer ... for his pleasure and the pleasure of his fans who have a peaceful concept of life.

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Another interesting question is: Will Federer retire as Nadal's turkey?
Conceptually and for MTF definitely yes it's even more obvious than for Murray : I can't see Federer as a "turkey" myself, he's not that kind of animal but you like other haters will have the pleasure to enjoy that

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More likely to say Nadal will retire having Fed (still active at that time) as a turkey. If Rafa will choose to play when his body will begin to crack (3 years from now, imho), Fed will have the chance to level a little bit of that lopsided h2h. But, knowing Rafa, he will retire when he will have the feeling that he is not a top 3 contender anymore.
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Conceptually and for MTF definitely yes it's even more obvious than for Murray : I can't see Federer as a "turkey" myself, he's not that kind of animal but you like other haters will have the pleasure to enjoy that
Believe it or not, I wouldn't like that and it might not happen. I don't hate Fed, sometimes his unbecoming petulance gets to me, that's all. There are many people who genuinely love the man, so I can understand how that might look to them.


As for Murray and Fed, nothing is given there either. If I had to bet, I would rate the odds as equal actually.
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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

i figure murray will get the best of federer in coming years, esp. as one naturally expects federer to keep declining over the years.

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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

It will end...pause... on HC.
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Re: How Will The Murray-Federer Rivalry End?

Murray is improving each year.
Federer is slowly declining each year.

Murray leads 8-7. So it would be logical to say that especially in the last year or two of Federer's career, Murray will pull away to end their rivalry with maybe a four or five more wins.

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When Fed is on, he's an awful matchup for Murray.

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