Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limelight. - MensTennisForums.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,940
                     
Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limelight.

So Rafa gave a 3 hour live interview on Mallorcan TV last night in which many aspects of his career appear to have been discussed. They had stars like Casillas, Gasol, Contador, Rudy Fernandez etc. call up and talk about Rafa and also had journalists and young tennis players asking him questions. Unsurprisingly Djokovic came up a lot and I thought Rafa made some rather interesting comments reported by a few papers today.

Disclaimer: I don't speak Catalan/Mallorquin so don't know how what he actually said & the credit of the translation is to a user on another forum.

Quote:
The tennis player of Manacor took part in an interview of almost three hours at the Manacor Theatre where he criticized the way Djokovic burst onto the tour but added that the Serbian "has been able to improve"

The Mallorcan tennis player Rafa Nadal attended yesterday a special edition of the show Golèmica broadcast by TV IB3 from the Manacor Theatre and stated on camera that "Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limelight." The Balearic player clarified that the Serbian "has been able to improve" and that "it’s now and not before that this limelight belongs to him. He knows that he was wrong at the time," explained Nadal, who also reminded that the Balkan player "has a good heart."

Rafa spent almost three hours sitting on the podium and reviewing many aspects of the current sports situation. He spoke with Rudy Fernández, Pau Gasol, Alberto Contador and Jorge Lorenzo, and shared the podium with the RCD Mallorca player Víctor Casadesús and with the journalist Tomeu Terrace, who has been following the Manacori player from the beginning of his tennis career.

Nadal called for more recognition of all the athletes attending the Olympic Games and criticized the fact they do not get the reward they deserve and that "not even the gold medal is real gold." Also he confessed to being superstitious in a way: "I follow some stupid rituals before matches. Surely it’s useless but I do it."

The world number two of the tennis ranking exchanged a few words with Alberto Contador: "Contador has my full support" reminded Nadal who recommended to the winner of the Tour [de France] to "train, come back and win" in order to silence the critics.

Finally he spoke of the thrashing that RCD Mallorca gave to Villarreal and of its meaning: "I am not in favour of revenge or resentment, so I only prefer the importance of a victory and of three points," hoping that the island team retains its league status.
http://www.balearesport.es/deportes/...rma-equivocada

The statement about having a good heart is pretty nice and it was clear at the time that Nadal didn't think too much of the impressions etc. - in fact a lot of the tour didn't seem to like it. Another article quote the Djokovic statement slightly differently: "Novak came on to the tour always wanting to be the protagonist and he made a mistake. Now he is the protagonist (for the right reason) for his triumphs." That's Novak's personality I guess but there's no doubting Rafa respects his achievements now. It's also interesting that he says "he knows he was wrong at the time" as if it's something they've discussed.

More on Novak in this article:

Quote:
Rafa Nadal was the star of IB3's programme 'Golèmica', with the set moved on this occasion to the Teatre de Manacor, where he went over recent months and received the support of friends like Pau Gasol, Alberto Contador, Iker Casillas and Jorge Lorenzo. His most 'heartfelt' words were with the cyclist from Pinto: "thank you. Two times, three times over.. You have my total support, I've already told you in private. What you have to do is come back and win, give them all a lesson."

How many times had he gone back over the Australian final? "Very few because it left me very content. And I'm a good loser, I accept my defeats with calm and perspective and, if it is possible, in the most positive manner. I managed to make an advance in my confrontations with Djokovic, I left Australia with positive sensations both about my tennis and the mental aspect. I was closer to him in Melbourne but I don't know if I'm closer to beating him. There are eras, I prevented him from doing things in the past and he's preventing me now. I don't think about him, though, but about myself getting better," he explained. He described the AO final as: "together with the 2005 Rome final against Coria, the toughest match I've ever played. The two of us finished up in a really bad way and I was concerned because after all the fuss that was made at the US Open about the cramps I had at the presser, I was scared it would happen again."

Nadal declared "I've never believed in luck but rather in the spirit of overcoming difficulties, of fighting, and that sport depends on little details. The merit is totally Djokovic's because he has maintained a high mental, physical and tennis level for so long." He considers the only way to advance is "to play to win, assuming risks. Keep on in the same line of play, intensity and aggression. Then I can aim for the maximum."

The Davis Cup does not figure among his objectives at the moment. He is not considering, for the moment, returning to the DC team for the quarterfinal in April, contrary to what his uncle Toni said on this same programme last week. "I think Toni got ahead of himself. I have two Masters 1000 lined up to play and it's a long way away. Could I play? Yes. Could I not play? That too. I don't even know myself," he admitted. He also described all his on-court rituals as "stupid, yes, I don't think they help me but when I do them I feel I'm competing, that I'm concentrating on what I'm doing."

Rafa does not just want to compete at the London 2012 Olympics. It has been rumoured he is one of the candidates to carry the flag at the opening ceremony. "I would love to, it'd be a great honour. But it's difficult (because traditionally it goes to the athlete with most gold medals). If I'm not the one, I'll march behind the flag equally happily. I hope they're not my last Olympic Games. Tha gold medal was one of the best things that has ever happened to me. But best of all is the experience of living in the Olympic Village, sharing with all the other athletes who are there," he explained before pointing to sport, in these difficult times of crisis, as being a means, thanks to our successful results, of "facing them with more happiness, optimism and 'illusión'."
http://www.mundodeportivo.com/201202...259915765.html

Other interesting things: he may play mixed doubles at the Olympics if he loses first round in the singles and mens doubles. (Didn't know you could leave it that late!) I thought it was interesting he said he hopes they're not his last Olympics - the idea of being around in 2016 is not alien to him then despite most people giving him another two/three years on tour after 2012...
Ash86 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 05:38 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,270
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash86 View Post
So Rafa gave a 3 hour live interview on Mallorcan TV last night in which many aspects of his career appear to have been discussed. They had stars like Casillas, Gasol, Contador, Rudy Fernandez etc. call up and talk about Rafa and also had journalists and young tennis players asking him questions. Unsurprisingly Djokovic came up a lot and I thought Rafa made some rather interesting comments reported by a few papers today.

Disclaimer: I don't speak Catalan/Mallorquin so don't know how what he actually said & the credit of the translation is to a user on another forum.



http://www.balearesport.es/deportes/...rma-equivocada

The statement about having a good heart is pretty nice and it was clear at the time that Nadal didn't think too much of the impressions etc. - in fact a lot of the tour didn't seem to like it. Another article quote the Djokovic statement slightly differently: "Novak came on to the tour always wanting to be the protagonist and he made a mistake. Now he is the protagonist (for the right reason) for his triumphs." That's Novak's personality I guess but there's no doubting Rafa respects his achievements now. It's also interesting that he says "he knows he was wrong at the time" as if it's something they've discussed.

More on Novak in this article:



http://www.mundodeportivo.com/201202...259915765.html

Other interesting things: he may play mixed doubles at the Olympics if he loses first round in the singles and mens doubles. (Didn't know you could leave it that late!) I thought it was interesting he said he hopes they're not his last Olympics - the idea of being around in 2016 is not alien to him then despite most people giving him another two/three years on tour after 2012...
Listen Baba, this mindfuck stuff may work when Roger pulls it on Murray but Novak owns Rafa's ass. Rafa will never be the player Novak has become.

SheepleBuster: Nikola Tesla of MTF ...Jesus of America - the Capitalist Crusader.. the Morning Star ... the Bringer of Light.

My Black List: InfiDULL, Gutless Federer

Suarez & Nadal : True Trailblazers in Sports
*Proud hater of the neo-L.Ron Hubbard of Espana, the fake Pharaoh without clothes ... cult leader extraordinaire and ...

Fact: George Washington did not lose to Nole in Wimbledon final
SheepleBuster is offline  
post #3 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:11 PM
Registered User
 
emotion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Virginia
Age: 21
Posts: 50,194
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

God, I cannot stand him
emotion is offline  
post #4 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Age: 46
Posts: 3,574
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Waiting for " I figured him out" . Quickly followed by a few more
Beat downs .
Clearly the talk of the tennis world is Novaks ownership of nadull.
Can he adapt his game to the new challenge?

The law of nature,only the strong survive.




THE GREAT TACTICAL RIVALRY OF THE OPEN ERA
FEDERER 10 VS TONI NADAL 20
ADVANTAGE TONI NADAL
RAPHEAL NADULL,A PRETTY FACE & MUSCLE
NOTHING MORE

Fed 2 nadull 13 fed is nadull CLAY TURKEY. THE REAL ERA 2003-2010.
luie is offline  
post #5 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:31 PM
Registered User
 
timafi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,436
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

oh shut the hell up Rafa;the only limelight Novak is seeking are grand slam trophies but in the meantime he is making you blow smoke up your own ass he's beating you so damn much and looking at the way you are responding I am enjoying them more and more and how hypocritical considering you were the one who did a video with Shakira;a shoot with Bar and will do another video with Rihanna

Trump Jr. says Obama plagiarized his quote, but not before he borrowed it from Obama and both president Bushes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/.../?tid=pm_pop_b



timafi is offline  
post #6 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Age: 46
Posts: 3,574
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Nadull is so fake it's unbelieveable. Agassi's mullet is more REAL that him.

The law of nature,only the strong survive.




THE GREAT TACTICAL RIVALRY OF THE OPEN ERA
FEDERER 10 VS TONI NADAL 20
ADVANTAGE TONI NADAL
RAPHEAL NADULL,A PRETTY FACE & MUSCLE
NOTHING MORE

Fed 2 nadull 13 fed is nadull CLAY TURKEY. THE REAL ERA 2003-2010.
luie is offline  
post #7 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:41 PM
Registered User
 
alter ego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Age: 28
Posts: 5,019
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Quote:
Originally Posted by timafi View Post
oh shut the hell up Rafa;the only limelight Novak is seeking are grand slam trophies but in the meantime he is making you blow smoke up your own ass he's beating you so damn much and looking at the way you are responding I am enjoying them more and more and how hypocritical considering you were the one who did a video with Shakira;a shoot with Bar and will do another video with Rihanna
Quoted for truth.
Can't believe Nadull is still bitter because of those impersonations that happened 5 years ago.

Roger Federer | Benoît Paire| Stanislas Wawrinka | Nick Kyrgios
alter ego is offline  
post #8 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:42 PM
Registered User
 
Allez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 11,025
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Can people read the whole article before making a judgement ? Stop taking things out of context and remember Rafa knows Nole 1000% better than anyone on TMF
Allez is offline  
post #9 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:45 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,270
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez View Post
Can people read the whole article before making a judgement ? Stop taking things out of context and remember Rafa knows Nole 1000% better than anyone on TMF
How? Are they dating? Cause that's the only way he would know Novak better than us

SheepleBuster: Nikola Tesla of MTF ...Jesus of America - the Capitalist Crusader.. the Morning Star ... the Bringer of Light.

My Black List: InfiDULL, Gutless Federer

Suarez & Nadal : True Trailblazers in Sports
*Proud hater of the neo-L.Ron Hubbard of Espana, the fake Pharaoh without clothes ... cult leader extraordinaire and ...

Fact: George Washington did not lose to Nole in Wimbledon final
SheepleBuster is offline  
post #10 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:47 PM
Registered User
 
Looner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13,226
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Nadull also said that the top 3 came from different cultures and sort of indirectly implying Djoko was a show-off. The thing is, that's Djokovic's character. And it's rich to say someone arrived seeking the limelight when Nadull became famous with his pumping of fists, legs, arse, etc. And he continues to do it which makes this whole comment all the more hilarious.

Obviously, the funniest part is that Nadull now thinks he has a personality (after what 10 years on tour?) but and can try to express a view yet Djokovic still beats him. Wonder if he'll try to play by himself and not wait for instructions from Mama Toni during matches.
Looner is offline  
post #11 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:52 PM
Ace Loveforty
 
scarecrows's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Tirana, ALBANIA
Posts: 81,648
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

nothing wrong with what Nadal said

he just told it like it is, like Federer has been doing all these years

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...&postcount=378

Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerRafaFan View Post
That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
Quote:
Originally Posted by l_mac View Post
(10) Corey Feldman vs. (12) scarecrows
scarecrows is offline  
post #12 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 06:55 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,940
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Wow. My mistake for thinking people on MTF may actually read some interesting thoughts/insights from a top player and comment on the content of it rather than just blindly hate.

Nadal doesn't sound bitter about Novak's success - in fact he credits it down to Novak's superiority in terms of level of tennis, consistency etc. - not luck (which is more than some Rafa fans). He's simply commenting on Novak's personality and IMO it's because he probably thinks Novak could have done more back in 07-08 by focusing on his game than on being the "joker". The comment "he knows this" seems to me to suggest it's something that has been talked about/mentioned - as much as the rival fans might not get on I don't think it's outrageous to believe that Novak & Rafa have said more than just "hello" to each other over the past year. Rafa's always admired Fed & prefers his style - he's said they're from different cultures and different people - that's not a negative thing. People are ignoring the "he's got a good heart" comment I guess - which to me is one of the biggest compliments Nadal could give Novak since he seems to have very black & white opinions about people being good/bad...

As for being beaten so many times - he's not shying away from it is he? He's said that things change - he beat Novak in important matches in the past - now Novak's beaten him many times. What's wrong about that? He also says he doesn't know if he's any closer to beating him after Australia (again different to Rafa fans) - i.e. he felt closer than in other matches but doesn't know if it'll be enough - very honest and probably something that MTF would agree with him on since the consensus here is he has no chance...

On the one hand Nadal apparently is fake & insincere yet when he says what he thinks (none of which is that controversial) he's being bitter. To me it's a great insight into the Fed/Rafa/Djoko dynamic- Rafa admires Fed and has always thought Novak underachieved - now Novak's done well & Rafa thinks he's earned the attention that before he used to get due to his impressions etc...
Ash86 is offline  
post #13 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 07:03 PM
Registered User
 
zcess81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Age: 36
Posts: 3,035
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

There is truth to what Nadal is saying. After Nole won his first slam in Australia in 2008, he admitted that his priorities were not on tennis 100%. He was immature and he has learned his lesson. You guys think you'd do any better? It's easier judging behind computer screens, but with that much success and fame, it is very easy to lose sight of your priorities. Anyway, Nole paid the price for it and he went on a walkabout until 2010. He was Nadal's/Fed's punching bag that whole time, but he's learned from his mistakes - matured as a person - and now his priorities are 100% tennis...everything else must come second, otherwise he won't stay at #1 spot for too long...but I think he knows that, and I think he'll make it.

Novak Djokovic Rafael Nadal


David Ferrer - Leyton Hewitt - David Nalbandian - Marcos Baghdatis - Janko Tipsarevic - Tommy Haas


AJDE NOLE!
zcess81 is offline  
post #14 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 07:06 PM
Registered User
 
Naudio Spanlatine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Lust and/or Love of fire. My heaven has awaited me.
Posts: 23,908
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

so many rafa haters i swear their was nothing wrong with what rafa said, sheesh people get a life good lord
Naudio Spanlatine is offline  
post #15 of 180 (permalink) Old 02-24-2012, 07:08 PM
Anathemaniac
 
Sunset of Age's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Wall.
Posts: 41,908
                     
Re: Nadal: Djokovic arrived on the tour the wrong way, with a desire for the limeligh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash86 View Post
On the one hand Nadal apparently is fake & insincere yet when he says what he thinks (none of which is that controversial) he's being bitter.
Did you expect anything else on MTF?
Haters of whatever player will always find something to hate on. They thrive on it.

Nothing wrong with what Rafa said whatsoever. He's just telling it the way it is.

"It's getting colder, I'm getting colder, older, it's getting colder...

Am I still here? As one, with The Fear?
Am I still alive? I'm still f*cking ... Here...!"


"The Storm Before The Calm"

Anathema

Into music of the PROG-Dorky-kind? visit my blog or MTF's Prog Rock Thread.
Sunset of Age is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome