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View Poll Results: Better Career: Safin vs Rafter vs Kafelnikov
Marat Safin 6 28.57%
Pat Rafter 5 23.81%
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 10 47.62%
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post #1 of 99 (permalink) Old 08-14-2009, 01:28 PM Thread Starter
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Better Career: Safin vs Rafter vs Kafelnikov

So this thread(sorry if it has been discussed before) is comparing two of the best Russian Male tennis players ever. As Marat Safin's father said

"Yevgeny Kafelnikov is the last product of the soviet organization of sport, Marat is the first tennis champion of a modern liberal Russia..."
Mikhail Safin (Marat's dad)

Who will you remember more? Here is a career comparison.

Kafelnikov


Singles
Career Titles (26)
Grand Slam (2)+1 Runner Up
Olympic Gold (1)
ATP Championship Series (4)
ATP Tour (19)
Davis Cup(1)
Former World Number 1 in Singles
6th All-time leader in earnings

Doubles
Career Titles(27)
Grand Slam (4)+1 Runner Up
ATP Masters Series (7)
ATP Championship Series (6)
ATP Tour (10)
Former World Number 4 in Doubles


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Safin

Career Titles(15)
Grand Slam tournaments (2)+2 Runner Up
ATP Masters Series /
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 (5)
ATP International Series Gold /
ATP World Tour 500 Series (1)
ATP International Series /
ATP World Tour 250 Series (7)
Davis Cup(2)
Former World Number 1


Pat Rafter:
2 Majors (USO '97, '98)
2 Major Finals (Wimby '00, '01)
1 Week at #1
11 Career Titles



Not really judging on Careers as on paper its obvious Kafelnikov had the better career eventhough both were good. Who will you remember more as a Tennis player/Personality/Professional

Safin - Agassi - Kafelnikov - Kuerten -Soderling - Davydenko - Santoro -Edberg - Novak - Nalbandian - Ivanisevic
You dealin' with a few true villains
Federer - Wawrinka - Nishikori - Del Potro - Mayer - Rublev - Youzhny - Khachanov - Andrey Kuznetsov- Safiullin - Karatsev

Marat Safin Matches Youtube Channel
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafel all the way
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov has the better career on paper but Safin was always more of a personality.

Yevgeny is class but he had a personality like the PMK (hence his nickname) so he wouldn't be as fondly remembered.

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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Most people on MTF will say Safin as he is younger.

Kafelnikov for me though.

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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov, definitely.

Safin is hated on this internet forum but in reality he is loved.

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half of MTF girls are in love with the guy...
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov for sure
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov but i have enjoyed watching both players alot.
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Guys want to be him and girls want to be with him.

I've heard so many people say that.

Everybody just thinks Marat is god and rightly so.

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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov was a joy to watch when he was on - his baseline pure striking was one of the best of all time. He was my favorite player of the 90's, so my vote goes for him
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov is the clear winner in the "Can you spell my name right?" category among slam winners. And a good player as well!

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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Safin because he was on my television set more recent.
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

safin of course. he's played in an era where I've had access to live tennis outside queens/wimbledon.

can't remember having watched many specific kafelnikov matches live
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Safin because of his personality and natural talent..
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Re: Who will you remember more? Safin or Kafelnikov

Kafelnikov had by far the better career (and was the better player also), but Safin will be more remembered due to his looks and personality...

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