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Re: Roger Federer : The Quest For 20 Slams and 100 Titles

I think that he can win more 1 or 2 slams, 20 seems too much. It doesn't matter much, because at the moment he is the GOAT for me. In the future probably there will be someone better and it's still in Nadal's reach to top Federer.
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Caught between the Nadal rock and the djoker hard place the Swiss miss hasn't a chance at 20
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clay warrior just needs to worry about what he can do based on his own unique set of competitive advantages. i believe that is exactly what he is doing.

i dont think he has any sleeepless nights worrying about what fed can do or what he is doing.

trying to chase 17 slams would be a foolish agenda that could end his career.

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I'd love to see Fed defeat Nadal in straight sets in the semifinal of USO 2012 and then take the title against Djokovic, saving 5 championship points in the process.
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u.s. open is a tough foremat for fed now. he is 31.

wimbledon remains the least demanding slam for him.


he will need nole and the clay warrior to fall apart and upset by somebody at the open. chances of that happening are not that high this time around. both will be well rested and ready.

long grueling RG campaign pretty much wore out both nole and nadal physically and mentally. they were both under a lot of pressure there.

and of course nadal was faced with the challenge of winning just about every single match during the clay season. that took a lot out of him.

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fed needs a great draw at the u.s. open and he needs somebody to upset nadal and nole.

that is the big question of the day? can that happen?

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Hellooo general hercules. I do not think Nadal& Nole will fall early. Lightning does not strike twice

But if Fed is seeded #1 or #2, he can reach the final and there could be possibility of Nadal-Djoker semis as well

Bottomline Djokovic is the best player on hardcourts. HE will start as favorite
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fed needs a great draw at the u.s. open and he needs somebody to upset nadal and nole.

that is the big question of the day? can that happen?
He's had great draws at RG and Wimbledon, I don't think you can get more lucky than this (in the early rounds). He did a great job in the semis and finals to take #17 though.

However General Death, if Nole and Rafa are drawn in the same half and play a grueling semifinal on Stupid Saturday... Fed could have the upper hand in the final pretty easily (provided he makes that far, which I won't take for granted). Anyway I think USO conditions suits his game pretty well: he should have taken out Nole in at least one of the two last semis.

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Not if he kept losing to Nadal at R.G. On the other hand if he'd played Del Potro in the U.S. Open final on grass, then yes, I guess he'd have had a NCYGS.
I said 2009, the year he didn't have to play Nadal at the French. His level at the AO09 would have won it against Nadal were that final played on grass (not like mono-Fed in 08), and clearly he would have taken USO09, so actually NCYGS.
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Hellooo general hercules. I do not think Nadal& Nole will fall early. Lightning does not strike twice

But if Fed is seeded #1 or #2, he can reach the final and there could be possibility of Nadal-Djoker semis as well

Bottomline Djokovic is the best player on hardcourts. HE will start as favorite

excellent post general shanks.

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he will need nole and the clay warrior to fall apart and upset by somebody at the open. chances of that happening are not that high this time around. both will be well rested and ready.
Federer can beat both of them at USO on a good day. He's not played a match there against Djokovic where he hasn't had matchpoints (despite not winning the last two ), and his form is arguably better this year than in '10-'11, so excellent chances there.

As for Nadal, they've never played at USO, but you'd have to put Federer as the slight favourite. Slam-wise it's Nadal's second-worst surface while Federer's second-best (and I heard rumours it would be faster this year). If the likes of Murray and Del Potro can put him out there, then surely Federer can too.
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u.s. open just became one of the most anticipated slams in recent memory.

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Physically, the US Open is tougher on the body, but that court still suits Federer's game very well. I think he's virtually 50/50 against Djokovic at the Open and I'd favor him against Nadal.

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nole is 2 hard court slams richer since last the u.s. open.

so he is going to be far more confident. i would not count him out.

he is the one to watch there. if somebody can take him out then both fed and the clay warrior could have some chances there.

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Re: Roger Federer : The Quest For 20 Slams and 100 Titles

My thoughts on US Open 2012.

(1) I heard rumors, that the surface is going to be faster than last year, which is good for Fed, bad for Nadal, probably neutral for Djokovic.

(2) IMO the last couple of years have shown us how difficult it is to win a turnament, if you have to beat the other 2 of the big 3 en route. Most people probably don't realise how rarely that happens. Nole 2.0 did it twice, in Indian Wells and US Open, the last time Nadal did it was 2008 also twice, in Roland Garros and Hamburg, Fed did it in WTF 2010.

Basically this means, that if you're the 3rd seed, then you're screwed in every tournament. This also means that the top seed (1-2), who faces Murray in SF, is at an advantage over the other one.

(3) Contrary to what many people think, IMO US Open is Fed's best slam in the later stages of his career, or at least as good as Wimbledon. He never struggles there reaching the SF, contrary to the last couple of Wimbledons.

(4) Unless some disaster happens, Nadal will be the 3rd seed for US Open. So there are 2 possibilities for semifinals:

(a) Fed-Murray, Djokovic-Nadal. In this case, Fed has IMO a very high chance of winning. He should beat Murray again in 3-4 sets and have a tired opponent in the final. If it's Nole, then remember that in the last 2 years fresh Nole barely beat Fed in 5 sets, saving match points. If Nole is tired and Fed isn't, especially since Nole is not Nole 2.0 any more and Fed has gained confidence in Wimbledon, Fed should be favourite.

If Nadal wins the SF, Fed should also be favourite in the final, unless he barely beats Murray in 5 and Nadal easily beats Nole in 3-4, which is unlikely. This IMO would be a similar situation to Fed - Nole at Wimbledon. It would be their 1st meeting there and the surface favours Fed. Look how Nole fans underestimated Fed on grass, only because Nole is better on other surfaces. The same can easily happen with Nadal and US Open. Fed's H2H with Nadal in the second, faster part of the season, is 6-1, with the only loss on worn out Wimbledon grass.

(b) Fed-Nadal, Djokovic-Murray. This is much tougher than (a), especially since Fed-Nadal would definately be played 2nd on Stupid Saturday. If Djokovic beats Murray easily, he will be clear favourite, whomever he meats in the final. Fed can win if he beats Nadal in 3-4 sets and faces Murray or tired Djokovic (which is possible, look at AO 2012, and remember that Murray was finalist in US Open, so he knows how to win there).

To sum up, Fed doesn't need someone to upset Nole/Nadal to win US Open. If he draws Murray in SF and only 1 of them is upset, it could even lower his chances.

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