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Re: Roger Federer : The Quest For 20 Slams and 100 Titles

he is not young anymore. so are you sure he can last a 4+ hours battle on those hard courts against the likes of nole and nadal?

there is a reason why i say grass offers the best possibilities. for one thing, you just saw it with your own eyes.

secondly, its the least demanding of all slams. thirdly, his serve is far more devastating here on grass.

he can also take advantage of attacking opportunities here.

that is my position anyway. now lets hear the other positions.

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USO is quick enough (especially painted properly ) to allow Fed to smash FH winners and still use the serve. It's no grass with regard to the serve but you saw what RF's serve does on a slow HC (IW) and a relatively fast one (Dubai).


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I agree with most of you say, Mark, but I think Federer would win over any player this Wimbledon, the only one who I see troubling him is Rafa.
Federer was returning every damn shot in the last rounds, Tsonga (and I love Tsonga and Fed the same, so i'm totally objetive here) couldn't trouble that. Jo couldn't manage a 10+ shots rally vs this Fed, his backhand is working really well and that was the weak-point in Federer's matches vs big-hitters.
I agree that Federer would be the clear favorite, just think Tsonga could have caused him more problems than Murray. Murray did play well, but Tsonga serves bigger than him and hits bigger; he's Benneteau (the guy who caused Fed the most trouble here) on steroids (obviously not literally before anyone accuses me of implying Jo is doping ).

Remember Fed only had one break point the entire match when they faced at Wimbledon last year, Jo's serve on grass is far bigger and harder to return than Murray's. Of course a Slam final is different, and I'm not saying Jo would win, but I could see him and particularly his style cause Federer more trouble. And 10+ shot rallies wouldn't be an issue; you have to remember Jo has a bigger serve and groundstrokes than Murray and is far more offensive, his game is far more risky, he'd not get drawn into long rallies.
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Answer: No. If he is out there 4-5 hours against Nole or Rafa, Federer is playing their game not his.

Federer will have to take it in 3 or 4 sets in around 3 hours or less.

The US Open should be faster conditions this year from what I've heard. It's not like the Rod Laver Arena court.

Here's an outlandish (given 1.5 months, and no draw yet) prediction: Nole and Rafa do not make it past the semifinal this year. You heard it here first... Who will that leave in the Final?

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Answer: No. If he is out there 4-5 hours against Nole or Rafa, Federer is playing their game not his.

Federer will have to take it in 3 or 4 sets in around 3 hours or less.

The US Open should be faster conditions this year from what I've heard. It's not like the Rod Laver Arena court.

Here's an outlandish (given 1.5 months, and no draw yet) prediction: Nole and Rafa do not make it past the semifinal this year. You heard it here first... Who will that leave in the Final?

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It's not that outlandish, especially in Nadal's case, could see him get ousted in QF or SF.

As for who that'd leave in the final, two of the other 126 players in the draw :P
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why dont you tell us general since you already have all that figured out?

i can tell you one thing: either nole or the clay warrior are snatching the u.s. open.



fed`s next slam possibilities are again at wimbledon. you know he is going back to defend his title.

and i am counting any medal at the olympics as another title for fed.

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I think we should wait until the USO-Series M1000.
Then, we should know so many things about what's gonna happen in the slam.

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Answer: No. If he is out there 4-5 hours against Nole or Rafa, Federer is playing their game not his.

Federer will have to take it in 3 or 4 sets in around 3 hours or less.

The US Open should be faster conditions this year from what I've heard. It's not like the Rod Laver Arena court.

Here's an outlandish (given 1.5 months, and no draw yet) prediction: Nole and Rafa do not make it past the semifinal this year. You heard it here first... Who will that leave in the Final?

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are you doing some wishful thinking again general?

what am i do to do with you?

u.s. open is not wimbledon. there is no grass at flushing meadows.



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It's not that outlandish, especially in Nadal's case, could see him get ousted in QF or SF.

As for who that'd leave in the final, two of the other 126 players in the draw :P
I want to say Federer and Del Potro, but it might be too much to ask for a 2009 repeat.

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are you doing some wishful thinking again general?

what am i do to do with you?

u.s. open is not wimbledon. there is no grass at flushing meadows.


No question. Back on topic - #78 to surpass John McEnroe comes at the US Open. It's written in the stars...
I just can't easily dismiss a 5 time consecutive singles champion, who's #1 in the world (for now ) over 1 time wonders.
Many people made that mistake at Wimbledon. They must have been smoking crack pipes.



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I want to say Federer and Del Potro, but it might be too much to ask for a 2009 repeat.

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I wouldn't mind that final at all, although as a JMDP fan I'm not very eager to see Federer on the other side of the net after the beatdowns Juan has received since returning from his wrist surgery

Realistically speaking though, don't think JMDP is ready to make it to the finals this year. Federer definitely could and even should, though.
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This is so freaking exciting i have to say. on a side note this is ruining my studies

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I wouldn't mind that final at all, although as a JMDP fan I'm not very eager to see Federer on the other side of the net after the beatdowns Juan has received since returning from his wrist surgery

Realistically speaking though, don't think JMDP is ready to make it to the finals this year. Federer definitely could and even should, though.
Yeah, I feel badly for Mr. del Potro. But he's only 23 still. Time is on his side. I think he may have overplayed a bit earlier this year at the wrong time and weakened himself (similar to John Isner). He's far better in my opinion when he is relatively fresh. Hopefully he is resting that knee and will be good for the US Open series events.

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Yeah, I feel badly for Mr. del Potro. But he's only 23 still. Time is on his side. I think he may have overplayed a bit earlier this year at the wrong time and weakened himself (similar to John Isner). He's far better in my opinion when he is relatively fresh. Hopefully he is resting that knee and will be good for the US Open series events.

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I agree with you fully. He had to play a lot to build his ranking up, though. I think he will finish this season as #5 - he's #6 in the race, and should definitely gain 1200+ points on Ferrer during the American hardcourt season + indoors, while keeping the guys behind him at bay. Starting next year as #5 (or 6 at worst), he should be ready to become a real contender.

He'll do fine in the US hardcourts for sure, should make a few semis at least provided he doesn't keep drawing Federer (his bete noire at the moment) in every tournament.
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