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80+ titles in this era is beyond impressive.

If he can get to 100? Damn.

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actually it is also about the ranking for him: he has said this many times and he said it again last week. he said he would like to be #1 again.

so winning titles--large and small--will get him to where he wants to go. not saying he will get there definitely but that is his thinking anyway.

he is working hard on his fitness and his game. there is a reason for that.
It's my belief that it Federer's fitness that is letting him down in the big matches in the grand slams (alongside the Nadal match up issue). Take the Djokovic match in the US Open in 2011. Federer played out of his mind putting everything into the first 2 sets, a level of play he has to reach to beat Djokovic. But he took his foot off the pedal in sets 3 and 4, and Djokovic came back into the match, as Federer stopped moving as well. Then it was noticeable how Federer upped his level in the 5th set, working much harder to retrieve balls to stay in points. He should've won the match. But that's my point. His fitness is not good enough to compete against Djokovic or Nadal at the required level over 5 sets on slow courts. In fact Federer in al likelihood would struggle against Murray on slow courts as well over 5 sets (barring a Murray choke). Had Federer beaten Djokovic in 2011 US Open semi-final then I am certain Nadal would've beaten him in the final as that centre court looked very slow, and Federer just would not have been able to hang tough in the long rallies, something that is critical in beating Nadal as Djokovic has shown again and again.

As for winning 100 titles? All down to whether Federer wants too. As others have said, he could quite easily just play 20 ATP250 events every year and win them all for the next 5 years as the opposition just is nowhere good enough to beat him bar whomever reaches the final. But Federer won't, as he wants the big titles. The ones which are hard to win. They define greatness. The slams.
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Federer might play until 34 at the absolute most.
I think Fed's limit will be 2016 Olympics. He is on the record as saying he wanted to play at a high level long enough so his twins could watch and remember watching him play at that level. So a few more years yet.
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Fed will retire this year in Basel

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this is not 2005 anymore. no blake and roddick in slams;
then again, blake beat federer at the olympics (almost apologetic about his hero's "bad day").
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stay on the subject and it would be considered wise to try to restrain your mindless propensity to pick holes in people. it is always the right thing to do.

when did i ever say or claim that i can spell or that english was my first language? it is not even my 4th language. is it not obvious that my english is no good?
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a better title to this thread would be "The King of 100 Languages: Clay Death the Destroyer"

the floor is yours. do you think can he reach 100? I believe he can.

He only has around 29 languages left to learn to reach that goal and he can learn new ones even after he's 40 - as a matter of fact he can keep studying until he dies.

it has been proven time after time that nothing is impossible for the mighty Hercules of the Castle.

hapless, legless, worthless, spineless, useless sewer rats have no say in this thread.

we are keeping it positive here and these ejaculites are simply terrible in the field of linguistics

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Federer will win Newport every year until he is 60.

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Federer will win Newport every year until he is 60.
excellent plan. except make that 70 and jimmy's record is broken for sure. and he'll fit right in with the newport crowd. allez!

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Re: The King of 100 Titles : The Great Swiss Assassin

No way. He'll be somewhere around 82-85 (which it would be pretty impressive tbh)
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I don't think Federer is the type to enter mickey mouse tournaments just to pad his numbers. I'm thinking in the 80-85 range.
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I think Fed's limit will be 2016 Olympics. He is on the record as saying he wanted to play at a high level long enough so his twins could watch and remember watching him play at that level. So a few more years yet.
Yep I think that's a good assessment. He has said that he wants more kids. In the twins' first year he said in a few interviews (quite proudly) that he was hardly away from them for more than a day (even though they're too young to remember that). He noted that when they start school the girls will have to stop travelling with him everywhere. And it seems he doesn't want to be an absentee dad. So put all that together and I think another 4 years is the max. He could go into a sort of 'part-time' mode after that; playing only slams and a few favourite tournaments. But what will that do for his form, if he only plays 7 or 8 tournaments per year?

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Anyway, lets take this claim from CD seriously while we are writting in his thread, lets make a roadmap to 100 titles:

29 more to go, what is required from Federer and development in tennis for this to be possible?

1-Longevity like the old days. Is it possible Federer can be another Rosewall or Connors? Or atleast a Laver or Agassi? Does he have it in him to be competitive far into his 30s? I say it is possible, he needs to play until 38 I think if he wants a chanse to get 100 titles.

2-End of super top 4 era, sometime soon Djokovic, Nadal and Murray needs to stop beeing in every SF and F in not only slams but every master series aswell, Nadal must be close to reaching that slippery slope and will fall rather fast outside clay. What if 2013 marks the end of the 6-year reign of top 4s and Nadal is out of the picture, Djokovic not in every final and so on? Federer can go back winning Indian Wells or Miami, probably always be favorite in Cincinatti. Maybe he can win 2 master series per year, add 3 smaller tournaments and atleast 1 slam/TMC and you got 6 tournaments per year.

3-play the smaller tournaments and take the seriously, positive signs when he plays Rotterdam again, how about if Federer goes on to play some small clay tournament like Estoril every year instead of the impossible Monte Carlo?
Dont skip Halle aswell, Federer should play 5 small tournaments every year and maybe skip 2 master series every year instead. He would need 3 every year atleast until 2015.

So, this is my roadmap to 100 in honor of CD:

2012-5 more titles: Halle and Basel are in the bag, Olympics on grass and lets say 2 of these: indoor master series/Cincinatti/Usopen/Wimbledon/TMC

2013 (Djokovic and Nadal take 2 steps down from their peak):3 small tournaments, 2 master series and 1 big one. 6 tournaments.

2014(End of Djokovic era, he is physically drain and Nadal limited to clay): 3 small tournaments, 1-2 master series and grand slam+TMC. 6 tournament wins.

2015-2-3 small tournaments 1 master series, 0-1 slam/TMC, 4 titles

Now that puts Federer at 92 when he is 34 years old, he can get to 100 by having some out of the ordinary long career, and go down his latest years 2016-2019 to 2-3 tournaments per year.

Well, one hell of a stretch of the imagination to see this happen. I give CD 1 in 40 odds to be right.

i never said he is going to most definitely do this. i only started the thread to explore that possibility.

that said, if anybody can do then he is one of those who could pull it off. he will have to play a long time obviously.

he plays the game so easily anyway. i believe he will at least play until he is 36-37. he may even surprise us all by playing until he is 40.


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folks nothing stands still except for nadal. now here is a blundering buffoon who has not bothered to improve in 2 years but that is a subject for another day.

fed is going to make some adjustments down the road. perhaps he will have a even bigger serve. he might play more doubles so as to become even more effective at the net than he already is. and of course he will use all his experience out there.

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Even reaching McEnroe's 77 is far from guaranteed, though more likely than not at this stage. I can't see a 40-year-old, even one with Federer's talent, competing at the highest level in the modern game, with strings & surfaces as they are, & I can't see Federer continuing on the tour without being able to compete at the highest level, so somewhere in the mid-80s is optimistic but doable. 100 - no, he won't play long enough.

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Hed have a fair chance, except I think the clay titles are now out of reach. Hes too old for the dirt now, Djokovic and Nadal will be realing those in.

If the grass and indoor season was longer, he may almost have been there by now.

Id give Nadal a greater chance of getting to 17 slams then Fed to 100 titles.

BUT, in saying that, I think Federer would trade 100 titles for 18 slams in a heartbeat.

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