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Re: Roger Federer : The Swiss Warrior King's Quest For 100 Titles

I understand the last 10 matches have been split. But those matches other than clay have been on faster surfaces where fed has the most chance. Here in miami its a slow center court. Then at night the humidity goes up from mid 30's in the day to mid 50 to 60's at 7-9pm, which is the time they will most likely play if they both make it to the semis on friday night.

If this were a faster court, yeah of course I'd be giving fed a great shot. I just think the slow court and the fact they'll be playing on a humid filled night will give a big edge to nole. Let's see.
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so is this surface faster than the RG clay last year? i seem to recall that he pretty much dominated him on that slow red clay. and on top of that, no-djok was the in-form player with all the confidence in the world.

does the surface really matter that much? are you giving players any credit for their games?

it aint about the dance floor with him. it is about the dance.

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so is this surface faster than the RG clay last year? i seem to recall that he pretty much dominated him on that slow red clay. and on top of that, no-djok was the in-form player with all the confidence in the world.

does the surface really matter that much? are you giving players any credit for their games?

it aint about the dance floor with him. it is about the dance.
Maybe RG with the Babolat balls(light and fast) and a very thin layer of clay that they rarely water is now fast clay? RG looked like Fed's best slam last year. He looked like the better player of the tournament until he played Nadal. Take out Nadal and Fed wins RG this year. Can't say the same about the other 3 slams. Even if you take out Nadal, other players can beat Federer at AO(Nole), Wimbledon(Tsonga, Berdych?) and USO(Nole).
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First of all: You can never count Federer out of the slams. He has proven it in the last USO, AO and RG, Federer is still a big gun in slams, even with the 5-set format and the 2 week of intense tennis.
You can never count him out of Wimbledon or USO, even vs Nadal. It's a possible scenario Federer beating Nadal in those surfaces.

Second. Federer almost won over Djokovic in USO, and since then, Federer is playing way better than 2011, and Djokovic is playing worse. I think it's possible for Federer to be the favorite one and to win the SF match.

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so is this surface faster than the RG clay last year? i seem to recall that he pretty much dominated him on that slow red clay. and on top of that, no-djok was the in-form player with all the confidence in the world.

does the surface really matter that much? are you giving players any credit for their games?

it aint about the dance floor with him. it is about the dance.
Clay is a little different. Let's forget that was the match of the year and arguably fed was playing very high level in the match and serving extremely well. Clay disrupts nole ability to defend as well because he cannot push off like he can on hard courts otherwise he'll slip. Fed moves well on clay and slides exceptionally well. This reduces djokovic's biggest weapon which is his movement and defense. Hence federer has a 3-1 head to head lead on nole on clay.

This all changes on hard courts. Look at the end of the day roger has been holding serve great. He's winning a ton on both his first and second serves. The slow, humid conditions only help nole get more balls in play and give roger less free points. Let's see what happens. Obviously with federer he's always got a chance.


In my opinion, playing nole in a place as humid and slow as miami let alone a night match is about as tough a match fed can ask for against nole because nole will get even more balls back then he normally does and fed will have an even harder time getting free, cheap points on serve.
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so you sweating bullets and shitting bricks already and you dont even have to leave your house for this match?

a friendly reminder: its fed who is going into battle. you think he will be going in with your mentality?

you just stay put. nobody can harm you if you keep your doors locked and secure.

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First of all: You can never count Federer out of the slams. He has proven it in the last USO, AO and RG, Federer is still a big gun in slams, even with the 5-set format and the 2 week of intense tennis.
You can never count him out of Wimbledon or USO, even vs Nadal. It's a possible scenario Federer beating Nadal in those surfaces.

Second. Federer almost won over Djokovic in USO, and since then, Federer is playing way better than 2011, and Djokovic is playing worse. I think it's possible for Federer to be the favorite one and to win the SF match.
You can't count Fed out but you can notice the general trend he's shown when a slam match goes to 5 sets. He lost to Tsonga and Djokovic last year in 5 sets and if the French open went to 5 then Djokovic would have won it probably.
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so where exactly does #74 happen folks?

miami, madrid, halle (germany), or wimbledon?

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i think you know why. but i will give you the answer anyway:

clay warrior.

he has a stranglehold on the title there this year and the next. you cant stop him. not at a RG final.

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You can't count Fed out but you can notice the general trend he's shown when a slam match goes to 5 sets. He lost to Tsonga and Djokovic last year in 5 sets and if the French open went to 5 then Djokovic would have won it probably.
Vs Tsonga, I think it was pure luck, Federer played better the first 2 sets, but Jo is a great, great player and he had chances to beat Nole... But 2011 was Nole's year.
What you say about Roland Garros is false IMO, Djokovic couldn't close the 4th set, and Fed outplayed him in most of the match.

And about the USO, even in 5 sets, Fed deserved to win and he choked really bad, like Murray this AO. Things went to Djokovic side this time, but you must be so fuckin blind if you think Fed couldn't win 5-set matches.

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In Miami offcourse And Wimby will be #78
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how many people beat the clay warrior on clay in the last 7 years?

defense rests.

and now for title #74.

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i think you know why. but i will give you the answer anyway:

clay warrior.

he has a stranglehold on the title there this year and the next. you cant stop him. not at a RG final.
What if (God forbid) something like an injury happens to Rafa before the RG final like it happened in 2009?

Who would you think will win RG then?

Rafael "The Matador of Spin" Nadal
Roger “The Magician of Precision” Federer
Del Potro, Ferrer, Haas, Zeballos


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Federer won't beat Nadal in RG. At least not this year... Maybe next year if Rafa is with only one leg and nose-broken.
He had his chance last year, and a few points determined that match. A very close match (well... not the last set), and great tennis by both.

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What if (God forbid) something like an injury happens to Rafa before the RG final like it happened in 2009?

Who would you think will win RG then?
you just worry about my bottle of wine woman.

is that anyway to think for a guy who has 16 slams and will have 100 titles one day?

is that the only way you believe he can win another RG title. why cant you say that roger will find a way to deal with nadal one day on clay if you are a true fan?

no go buy me my bottle of wine and dont bother me for at least 30 more minutes.

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