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Is th REAL big four back?

With del potro looking somewhat back to his old self is the REAL big four back?

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But he lost 23 times against you.
's right. We have to also throw into the mix. But I do not think it is currently the decisive factor. But he has achieved in my opinion too much. Maybe this is crucial if I move him even closer after major victories. But 14 or 17 Grand Slam titles is a significant difference. At the present time there is no question that he must be the greater player than me.

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um wasnt delpo's highest ranking was #5, same was soderling too.
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No this shit again.

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um wasnt delpo's highest ranking was #5, same was soderling too.
Del Potro and Soderling have both ranked number four. Del Potro was seeded 4th for the 2010 Australian Open (ahead of Murray) and Soderling was seeded 4th for the 2011 Australian Open (also ahead of Murray).
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there is no Big 4. There isnt even a Big 3 these days.

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No. His highest ranking was #4. He was the number #4 for some weeks at the start of 2010 IIRC.

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Del Potro and Soderling have both ranked number four. Del Potro was seeded 4th for the 2010 Australian Open (ahead of Murray) and Soderling was seeded 4th for the 2011 Australian Open (also ahead of Murray).
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As stated, del potro reached number four in the world before his wrist injury took a year from him. Without the injury it's safe to say murray would easily be knocked out of the top 4.

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But he lost 23 times against you.
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No. His highest ranking was #4. He was the number #4 for some weeks at the start of 2010 IIRC.
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I love Juan Martin but he really has no business being included in this big four over Murray. One fluke (yes, it was ) slam win over Federer does not negate the fact that Murray has had a lot better career results. Results are what makes a player, not what-ifs and what-mights. Delpo can claim a slam, but he still has no Masters title and has yet to follow up his slam final with another one. Murray may not have a slam, but he has a ton of other results that speak to his ranking.

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I love Juan Martin but he really has no business being included in this big four over Murray. One fluke (yes, it was ) slam win over Federer does not negate the fact that Murray has had a lot better career results. Results are what makes a player, not what-ifs and what-mights. Delpo can claim a slam, but he still has no Masters title and has yet to follow up his slam final with another one. Murray may not have a slam, but he has a ton of other results that speak to his ranking.
Only bitter Fedtards would say Delpo's slam win was a fluke. Fed outplayed by Delpo in that final. Get over it already.

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could someone kindly tell me who this big four is? all i've seen for over a year now is a big 1. who cares if you're 4 or 104? chances are you're not winning anything.

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Only bitter Fedtards would say Delpo's slam win was a fluke. Fed outplayed by Delpo in that final. Get over it already.
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Its amazing how the player ( DelPo ) who is considered as a member of "BIG 4" has a horribe head-to-head against other members or pretenders for "BIG 4":against Nole 1-4 (only win is retirement,but win is a win),against Roger 2-8 ( Yes, I know,there is a win in a grandslam final in it, but also some 3 or 4 big defeats in grandslams),against Andy 1-5 ( Oh, Andy doesnt have a slam , no?),against Rafa 3-7 ( yes, there is that bombing lesson of US open 2009,I know)... So his cumulative head-to-head against them is : 7-24 ... These are facts...Head-to-Heads are just one component of course,but DelPo didnt win any Mastersseries tournament,he was in only 1 other grandslam semi apart from uS open win..I like the man very much,especially as a person,but I dont think so.
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