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yes. Jelena Gencic, a truly amazing woman. She has literally created both Djokovic and Seles. I read so much about her. She simply had that talent to recognize champions. AMAZING woman. She is very old, but she still works with kids. I was so happy when Nole gave her his W trophy. lots of men can learn so much from this lady.
Yeah. Apart from Đoković and Seleš, Genčić also discovered Goran Ivanišević. In fact, I've just read an article about her published in one Serbian daily newspaper ('Blic'). In eight-part series, she describes all about Novak's beginnings and tells many anecdotes from his childhood. They were spending much time together, not only in their training sessions. She not only taught him the basics of tennis but also many things about life, as Novak was very curious kid. It was so nice seeing Novak visiting her last year and showing her the Wimby trophy, the trophy they said they were always dreaming about.
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Wow, so many- why so few women coaches then?

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Yeah. Apart from Đoković and Seleš, Genčić also discovered Goran Ivanišević. In fact, I've just read an article about her published in one Serbian daily newspaper ('Blic'). In eight-part series, she describes all about Novak's beginnings and tells many anecdotes from his childhood. They were spending much time together, not only in their training sessions. She not only taught him the basics of tennis but also many things about life, as Novak was very curious kid. It was so nice seeing Novak visiting her last year and showing her the Wimby trophy, the trophy they said they were always dreaming about.
I forgot about Goran who was a great player. one thing that I really love about this lady is when she was training Nole, they used to listen to classical music and she asked him to visualize things... I love classical music. It's too bad that many people simply don't understand it and appreciate it more. I really don't understand how people can listen to all of this pop crap...
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I forgot about Goran who was a great player. one thing that I really love about this lady is when she was training Nole, they used to listen to classical music and she asked him to visualize things... I love classical music. It's too bad that many people simply don't understand it and appreciate it more. I really don't understand how people can listen to all of this pop crap...
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It's "trained by a woman" because there is a better pronunciation that way.

Llodra was coached by Mauresmo for his backhand.
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It's "trained by a woman" because there is a better pronunciation that way.

Llodra was coached by Mauresmo for his backhand.
I think Tsonga too, on a temporary basis? (for the one hander)
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I think Tsonga too, on a temporary basis? (for the one hander)
Not sure about that, but Tsonga as always been capable of pulling out these strange one handed backhand, it's not really recent he just started to hit some in matches.
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It's "trained by a woman" because there is a better pronunciation that way.
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It's "trained by a woman" because there is a better pronunciation that way.

Llodra was coached by Mauresmo for his backhand.
Well... if you are going to correct someone's grammar then I need to tell you that the proper way to express what you are saying would be "because this way the pronunciation would sound better." You cannot really say "a better pronunciation" because using an indefite article in front of the word "pronunciation" is very awkward.
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Well... if you are going to correct someone's grammar then I need to tell you that the proper way to express what you are saying would be "because this way the pronunciation would sound better." You cannot really say "a better pronunciation" because using an indefite article in front of the word "pronunciation" is very awkward.
you know what. I can't agree more. there are so many people posting here from all over the world... visiting this site, tennis lovers. and some stupid idiot is talking about grammar. I mean please.
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Serious question or maybe not quite...

As for Muzza, I was thinking abt him and his mom, of course...
Just because his mama was his coach does not mean she trained him. When I was a child, my dad helped me with algebra a bit. He didn't train me to become a mathematician, you know So let's stop talking about impossible things

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Istomin was trained by his mum. Not so sure now

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's right. We have to also throw into the mix. But I do not think it is currently the decisive factor. But he has achieved in my opinion too much. Maybe this is crucial if I move him even closer after major victories. But 14 or 17 Grand Slam titles is a significant difference. At the present time there is no question that he must be the greater player than me.

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Well... if you are going to correct someone's grammar then I need to tell you that the proper way to express what you are saying would be "because this way the pronunciation would sound better." You cannot really say "a better pronunciation" because using an indefite article in front of the word "pronunciation" is very awkward.
As used, it was perhaps a bit awkward, but obviously once can use an indefinite article with the word in a perfectly normal and appropriate way, e.g. “That is an acceptable pronunciation of the word;” “That is a pronunciation I have never heard;” “That is a better pronunciation than before;” etc. If you are simply designating one particular pronunciation, you would of course use an indefinite article.

And really, what does it matter? If we were speaking rather than writing, no one would care about the insignificant error either in the thread title or in the post to which you refer.

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I repeat, there is no male player in top 50 who is trained by a female. That is just a fact. You guys need to get over that and reserve this bs talk for women's tennis forums or something. Next thing you are going to say is Roger is coached by Mirka. Please.

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You can repeat it all you want, it doesn't make it true. The Don is coached by his Mum and Istomin, who I guess will be top 50 on Monday, is too
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