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Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Its pointless going surface by surface because I think, unless very early rounds of a slam, any clay or grass match would be easy straights for peak Nadal.

However, I could see a very ferocious battle between these two on hardcourts. Both have a lot in common there.

2 hardcourt slams, both one at US and Australian Open.

At least a couple of other hardcourt slam finals.

Would have won more hardcourt slams if not for an eventual GOAT contender in those hardcourt finals.

An epic semi or final in hardcourt slams (Safin 2005 AO, Djokovic Nadal 2012 AO final).

It would come down to match ups I guess.

Safins epic backhand vs Nadals topspin.

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

On what Hard court.. Sand of AO 2012 or some older?

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Fast surface / balls, etc = Safin by a mile

Slow surface / balls, etc = Nadal by a mile

I'm currently watching the Safin / Agassi AO SF 2004. That was a great match.
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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

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Fast surface / balls, etc = Safin by a mile

Slow surface / balls, etc = Nadal by a mile

I'm currently watching the Safin / Agassi AO SF 2004. That was a great match.
It was 2005. Maybe match of the century

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

LOL. Nadal can't reach the level of Peak Safin on Hardcourts.

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It was 2005. Maybe match of the century
No, not Federer / Safin semis.

I actually like Safin / Agassi better. With the roof closed the ball sounds like it is being shot out of a cannon on pretty much every shot. Those boys hit HARD.
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No, not Federer / Safin semis.

I actually like Safin / Agassi better. With the roof closed the ball sounds like it is being shot out of a cannon on pretty much every shot. Those boys hit HARD.
Sorry, I always think about that Federer vs Safin match

Yeap, Andre done some good damage that days

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Nadal's best shot (FH CC) won't bother peak Safin at all and keep in mind that Safin has a much better serve and net game than Djokovic. Peak Safin would be a nightmare match up for Nadal on Hardcourts.

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Peak Safin won over Peak Federer.

Peak Safin is almost impossible to defeat in HC.

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Peak Safin could beat Nadal even at today´s slow like ass AO, but not so sure, but if we are talking about faster HC - from early-mid 2000s than Rafa is doomed, peak Safin got big serve, big powerfull shots from bogh wings, his movement wasn´t best but on fast HC you didn´t need that much with that kind of game Marat had - Delpo is similar what i can remember on fast USO 09 he destroyed RAfa- but RAfa wasn´t at his peak that day, but still we can imagine that on early 2000s fast HC Marat would destroy peak HC Nadal
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Safin would expose him. Badly.

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Safin. Big man and big shots(almost in my league)
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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

I forgot we are talking about PEAK Safin (US Open 2000 vs. Sampras; AO 2004 vs. Agassi; AO 2005 vs. Federer).

In that case, we might see some bagels.
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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Safin playing at his best would defeat him in every slam except RG.
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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

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I'm currently watching the Safin / Agassi AO SF 2004. That was a great match.
ahah, every time I'm about to forget about the Safin-Agassi epic, a thread like this happens – then I remember how close Andre was from "being up four sets to love" in that match.



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