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post #46 of 63 (permalink) Old 02-16-2012, 08:07 PM
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Speaking as a big Safin fan of the past, I say Nadal will dominate 3 out of 4 (RG, W, US Open) and Marat may have a chance at AO if he is playing at his best.

The tennis that is played today by top 4 far far exceeds anything that Marat or his rivals such as Hewitt, etc ever were capable of. If you think otherwise, please put the crack pipe down.
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Safin playing at his best would defeat him in every slam except RG.
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dream on, at Wimbledon there just is no way, regardless of the speed of the grass
You know whats weird Marat's only good performance after all the knee problems was 2008 Wimbledon



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Safin would be a really bad matchup for Nadal (and for that matter Djokovic) on hards (even slow hards). On the other hand, Murray would likely be a major problem for him.
Of course this is Safin we are talking about, so you can expect a few free wins while his mind wanders. But if he's zoning, he would do what Del Potro did to Rafa at the USO a few years ago.

On clay and grass, Rafa dominates him.
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Safin would be a really bad matchup for Nadal (and for that matter Djokovic) on hards (even slow hards). On the other hand, Murray would likely be a major problem for him.
Of course this is Safin we are talking about, so you can expect a few free wins while his mind wanders. But if he's zoning, he would do what Del Potro did to Rafa at the USO a few years ago.

On clay and grass, Rafa dominates him.
Marat would dominate him indoors also.



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Speaking as a big Safin fan of the past, I say Nadal will dominate 3 out of 4 (RG, W, US Open) and Marat may have a chance at AO if he is playing at his best.
Nadal would not beat Safin on a quick USO.

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Fast surface / balls, etc = Safin by a mile

Slow surface / balls, etc = Nadal by a mile

I'm currently watching the Safin / Agassi AO SF 2004. That was a great match.
Actually, peak Safin on a slow hardcourt would still be a great match up against Nadal. His movement was superb especially for his height and we all know his ferocious backhand which Djokovic plays to perfection against Nadal. That along with a very blistering forehand and much better serve than Djokovic, I think he could of had a good record against Nadal in general, not just on hardcourts slow or fast. Sure, you can say Safin was a mental nutcase, but he has played plenty of matches which showed his true mental strength.

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Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Safin is too good for Peak Rafa, of course rafa will challenge him but still Safin was a beast on hardcourts
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Peak Safin won over Peak Federer.

Peak Safin is almost impossible to defeat in HC.
The problelem for Safin was that he not play his best very often. Something tells me Roger probably has the better H-H over Safin. Marat and Nalbandian are probably the most overrated players on this forum. Both could play brilliant tennis, but not often.
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The problelem for Safin was that he not play his best very often. Something tells me Roger probably has the better H-H over Safin. Marat and Nalbandian are probably the most overrated players on this forum. Both could play brilliant tennis, but not often.
whole this peak vs peak thing is mumbojumbo. you can take a club player at his "peak" beating anybody just hitting everything perfect.

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The problelem for Safin was that he not play his best very often. Something tells me Roger probably has the better H-H over Safin. Marat and Nalbandian are probably the most overrated players on this forum. Both could play brilliant tennis, but not often.
Please dont compare Marat and Nalby. 2 Slams to 0 Slams and wins over Sampras,Fed and Agassi in slams.



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Peak Nadal (2008) wasn't a really hardcourt player so he wouldn't win
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Safin's epic backhand wins by inertia.

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Please dont compare Marat and Nalby. 2 Slams to 0 Slams and wins over Sampras,Fed and Agassi in slams.
But Nalbandian won the Masters Cup, Safin didn't. He also beat Fed at GS (twice), and against Sampras and Agassi he never played I think.
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But Nalbandian won the Masters Cup, Safin didn't. He also beat Fed at GS (twice), and against Sampras and Agassi he never played I think.
Very true you could also say that Nalbandian's win equals Marat's because they were both five-setters in that same year. I am a huge Nalby fan he is in my top five favorite players. So pissed about what happened at the AO he could have reached the second week



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