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Re: Peak Andy Murray vs Peak Andy Roddick, surface by surface

Murray everywhere. Peak Roddick, wtf?
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Roddick's serve alone when he is at his peak would destroy Andy Murray's peak. Murray at his best return cannot ever break the Roddick peak service games, but the same can't be said otherwise.

Roddick when at his best in the past was only stopped by the best player of all time, Federer, and it is not likely anyone else would have stopped him in some of his finest Grand SLam Tournaments which ended in losses to Federer.

Roddick at peak just has too big of a serve and HUGEE baseline pounding strokes for Murray to handle. It's pretty simplistic, both players have tons of talent at their peaks BUT the defining moment is the fact that peak attacking tennis almost always defeats peak defending tennis...

Roddick > Murray easily

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Murray everywhere. Peak Roddick, wtf?
Roddick several different years at Wimbledon and the US OPEN played better than Andy Murray will ever play in his entire career

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Roddick at peak just has too big of a serve and HUGEE baseline pounding strokes for Murray to handle. It's pretty simplistic, both players have tons of talent at their peaks BUT the defining moment is the fact that peak attacking tennis almost always defeats peak defending tennis...
When the greatest attacking player of this era faced the greatest defensive player of this era on the biggest stage, he cobbled together a 2-8 career record.
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murray for sure. ton more skill than what was a fairly one dimensional power player.

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Why are people saying Murray is a certain win over Roddick at the French Open?

Murray ain't exactly a clay demon you know.

I pick peak Roddick to beat peak Murray in straights on every surface.
Have you seen the guys Roddick lost to on clay during his peak?

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Re: Peak Andy Murray vs Peak Andy Roddick, surface by surface

Roddick wins everywhere outside clay.
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Roddick wins everywhere including on clay.
Fixed for you.
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Re: Peak Andy Murray vs Peak Andy Roddick, surface by surface

Plexicushion: Murray
Rebound ace: Roddick
Decoturf: Roddick
Clay: Murray
Grass: Roddick
Indoors: probably Roddick
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Fixed for you.
Oh really?

Roddick's losses during his peak years at RG:

2003: Sargsian, in 4 (1st round)
2004: Mutis, in 5 (2nd round)
2005: Acasuso, in 5 (2nd round)
2006: A.Martin, in straights, although he retired from that (1st round)

How many times did he get past the 2nd round? Not once.
Sargsian? He was more of a fast court player, wasn't he?
I don't know much about Mutis, but from his result, he's far below Murray's opponents.
Acasuso was the only decent claycourter Roddick played here, and he lost.
He couldn't even beat Alberto Martin

By the way, Murray has beaten Acasuso at RG, fairly comfortably.

Murray's losses during his (so far) peak years at RG:

2008: Almagro, in 4 sets (3rd round)
2009: Gonzalez, in 4 (quarter-finals)
2010: Berdych, in straights (4th round)
2011: Nadal, in straights (in the semi-final)

How many times did he get past the 2nd round? All 4 times. Something Roddick couldn't even do once at his peak. What a joke.
Nadal on clay? One of the two best claycourters of all time, the other being the almighty Borg.
Almagro and Berdych are some of the best claycourters around. Gonzalez was too.

Roddick's opponents are nowhere near the level any of these players were. Some of the players Murray beat were also above them on clay.

On clay, Andy completely destroys Roddick.

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Re: Peak Andy Murray vs Peak Andy Roddick, surface by surface

Yes thats all Young andy does is destroy Roddick on CLAY. Of course, thats not new. Anything else.
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Yes thats all Young andy does is destroy Roddick on CLAY. Of course, thats not new. Anything else.
Anything else?

He'll beat him on hardcourt. His game is just too good for Roddick at its peak. His ground game is superior. His variety is better. He volleys better. He moves better. His serve is very big too and at his peak, he's unbreakable. How is Roddick supposed to beat that? Sure, he can keep serving up aces, but he'll be broken sooner or later. Murray is a better returner than Roddick, so he'll have far more chances to break than Roddick will.
On good ol' fast grass, Roddck wins. On the current slow crap, Murray wins.

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Peak Murray beats peak Roddick, but Roddick would be a better player over all. Roddick matches up poorly against Murray, who loves playing big servers with one-dimensional ground games. Even with the big forehand, I'd back Murray to come out ahead purely on the match up issue.

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