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Single BH dies?

In the past,Single BHers could stay NO.1 longer than Double BHers did (see the Statistics below).


No. of weeks of ATP ranking Singles No.1 for Single BHers (only show 5 most) :

Sampras - 286 (6 years Year End No.1), S&V, 64 titles (14 GS).
Federer - 285 (5 years Year End No.1), early S&V then Aggressive Basliner, 70 titles (16 GS).
Lendl - 270 (4 years Year End No.1), Aggressive Basliner, 94 titles (8 GS)
McEnroe - 170 (4 years Year End No.1), S&V, 77 titles (7GS)
Edberg - 72 (2 years Year End No.1), S&V, 42 titles (6GS)

Lendl, Sampras and Federer kepts solid NO.1 in his era.
McEnroe prime is also strong.


No. of weeks of ATP ranking Singles No.1 for Double BHers (only show 5 most) :

Connors - 268 (5 years Year End No.1), All court (S&V + Aggressive Basliner), 109 titles
Borg - 109 (2 years Year End No.1), Defensive Basliner, 64 titles (11 GS)
Nadal - 102 (2 years Year End No.1), Defensive Basliner, 46 titles (10 GS)
Agassi - 101 (1 year Year End No.1), Aggressive Basliner, 60 titles (8 GS)
Hewitt - 80 (2 years Year End No.1), Defensive Basliner, 28 titles (2 GS)

Borg retired too early.
Connors, Agassi shows their longevity.
Nadal faces challenge by another BHer (Djokovic)


Current No.1 Djokovic (33 weeks No.1 and running) is Double BHer (Aggressive Basliner style).


In early 2000s, less and less ATP players use S&V. (S&V dies)

Now, less and less ATP players are Single-Backhanders.

Do you think that Back Single-Backhand dies?


Who will the next Single BH king?


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Re: Single BH dies?

It's not about the number 1 but the fact is that :

- in many tennis schools, single-handed backhand is forbidden (Johnny Groove had made a thread about it)

- very very few of the young emerging players have a single-handed backhand, I think of Dimitrov and Marti I don't know who else, and see Tomic or Dolgopolov you would think in the past he would have had a single-handed backhand

This worries me a lot, more than Federer's retiring (think of Youzhny, Kohlschreiber, Haas, Gasquet ... who would still play like them ?), and as much as the fact that tennis gets so physical now (which is a huge incitation for doping).

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Modern tennis sent it to the history where it belongs, same as players who were playing or still play that deformed shot.

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Re: Single BH dies?

The stats you provided don't seem to prove anything or even hint at anything other than some players use a single handed backhand and some use a two-handed backhand.

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Re: Single BH dies?

What a pity, those shots are truly beautiful. But not quite as dead yet as S&V, fortunately.
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Re: Single BH dies?

What we gather from these facts are aggressive players who are looking to win a point stayed at number 1 longer and won more slams.
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Re: Single BH dies?

I agree that those stats don't really indicate anything, despite the fact that one-handed backhands are, in fact, on the decline.

Which is a shame, because it can be such an interesting shot. And almost always looks better than a two handed backhand.
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I agree that those stats don't really indicate anything, despite the fact that one-handed backhands are, in fact, on the decline.
The stats on first post, I can agree, but there are many other stats which show that it's on a HUGE decline, it's nearly dying, I think it's useless to work on such stats, that anybody can contest the fact, even Snowwy

By the way, with Gonzo, it's another SHBH player who retires

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It died a little bit more with Gonzalez retirement.

I really wish Golubev would be mentally checked and climbs up to top 20 where he belongs.
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its a very primitive tool unless your name happens to be roger federer.

the ultimate bottlom line: how many roger ferderers do you see out there.


defense rests. this primitive tool has no use in modern warfare on the tennis court.

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its a very primitive tool unless your name happens to be roger federer.

the ultimate bottlom line: how many roger ferderers do you see out there.


defense rests. this primitive tool has no use in modern warfare on the tennis court.
Are you kidding? fed topspin bh is piss-poor no penetration whatsoever (see on slow serves returns).
He gets away with it with a good slice, thats all.
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Are you kidding? fed topspin bh is piss-poor no penetration whatsoever (see on slow serves returns).
He gets away with it with a good slice, thats all.
he did manage 16 slams while having that very backhand. yes i know the rest of his game was rock solid and he moves like a cat.


still his single hander the best single handed bh is the best i have ever seen.

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still his single hander the best single handed bh is the best i have ever seen.
I'm a huge Fedfan, but no it's not true,

and except for the slice, it's not as beautiful imo as Youzhny's or Kohli's or Haas's or Gasquet's.

Fed represents a lot for tennis imo, but the single-handed backand represents much more, and Fed was just one of the SHBH players in his era.

I don't know what "primitive" means, but I'm not among the ones who like that modernity is supposed to eradicate all things which are beautiful but not effective, I don't want beautiful things to disappear because of that vision of "efficiency".

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The single hand backhand will make a comeback.

As will the forehand slice.

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I don't think it's absolutely dead. Golubev hopefully learns to play intelligently one day, Dimitrov and Marti will be top 20

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