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Re: Will Novak make a run for Feds 23 consecutive slam semi record? (11 and counting!

He is already making that run but equaling Feds consecutive semi record seems almost impossible. If Novak had not benefited from a bad call in Melbourne, Wawrinka would have served for the match and might have won. It seems that there are many matches where Djokovic skates close to the edge but manages to avoid disaster. Federer is my guy but I wish Novak continued good fortune.
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Djokovic will lose @RG QF against No. 5 Rafael Nadal. Book it.

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Very difficult, you can always have a bad day. For example, let's look at the match between Tsonga and Djokovic in last year French Open. It can happen again... and with different result from Nole.

Anyway, as some other users said here... who cares about the semis? This data only shows the consistency of Djokovic in Grand Slams, but the only thing that remains is the number of Grand Slam titles that he will win in his career.


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None of the previous record holders had access to the mighty egg.
I didn't know that the egg has the power to save matchpoints for the Djoker. Amazing this egg
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Very difficult, you can always have a bad day. For example, let's look at the match between Tsonga and Djokovic in last year French Open. It can happen again... and with different result from Nole.

Anyway, as some other users said here... who cares about the semis? This data only shows the consistency of Djokovic in Grand Slams, but the only thing that remains is the number of titles that he will win in his career.
Nonsense. I player that wins heaps of 250 titles in his career is less successful than someone who consistently goes deep in Grand Slams.
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Nonsense. I player that wins heaps of 250 titles in his career is less successful than someone who consistently goes deep in Grand Slams.
I said "the number of titles" refering to the number of Grand Slam titles, wich were the tournaments that we were talking about. So I'm editing my message to make this more clear.

I mean, you can make a lot of Grand Slam semifinals or quarterfinals (in a row, maybe), and this is a great result in order to proove that this player is consistent in the greatests tournaments of the year, so he plays his best tennis when he has to play his best tennis. However, when a player ends his career he is mainly remembered for how many Grand Slam titles he has won.


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Djokovic had to save 5 MPs in 2012 FO, also struggled hugely against Wawrinka in R16. He can only have so much luck.

Maybe he draws nadal in his quarter in RG or Tsonga at Wimbledon could do the trick as well.
As much as I agree it's not as if Federer didn't have his fair share of luck either. Tipsarevic Australian Open 2008, Andreev US Open 2008, Berdych Australian Open 2009, Haas Roland Garros 2009 all immediately come to mind!
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As much as I agree it's not as if Federer didn't have his fair share of luck either. Tipsarevic Australian Open 2008, Andreev US Open 2008, Berdych Australian Open 2009, Haas Roland Garros 2009 all immediately come to mind!
The only match that was as close as the Wawrinka match was Haas in 2009 RG.

Also Roger didn't have to save any MPs in those matches, Djokovic miraculously saved 5 against Tsonga.

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I said "the number of titles" refering to the number of Grand Slam titles, wich were the tournaments that we were talking about. So I'm editing my message to make this more clear.

I mean, you can make a lot of Grand Slam semifinals or quarterfinals (in a row, maybe), and this is a great result in order to proove that this player is consistent in the greatests tournaments of the year, so he plays his best tennis when he has to play his best tennis. However, when a player ends his career he is mainly remembered for how many Grand Slam titles he has won.
In that case you are 100% right.
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The only match that was as close as the Wawrinka match was Haas in 2009 RG.

Also Roger didn't have to save any MPs in those matches, Djokovic miraculously saved 5 against Tsonga.
the saved mps just make the streak even more legendary.
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He is already making that run but equaling Feds consecutive semi record seems almost impossible. If Novak had not benefited from a bad call in Melbourne, Wawrinka would have served for the match and might have won. It seems that there are many matches where Djokovic skates close to the edge but manages to avoid disaster. Federer is my guy but I wish Novak continued good fortune.

So you know that Wawrinka would win replayed point? Because Djokovic returned that shoot to Wawrinka and even if he asked for challenge Djokovic would get first serve..
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It's not that far-fetched. Might happen.
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So you know that Wawrinka would win replayed point? Because Djokovic returned that shoot to Wawrinka and even if he asked for challenge Djokovic would get first serve..
He said "if djokovic had not benefited from the bad call". This means if the line umpire weren't an idiot and call the ball out. Wawrinka hit a FH return to djokovic's feet, djokovic stopped the point and raised his hand signaling he would challenge. If the bad call wasn't made djokovic would have stop playing challenge, get it wrong and Wawrinka would have broken.

Even if the point had continued Wawrinka had a sitter after the great, valid return he hit, so he should win the point.

What Molina did was just stupid because he couldn't be sure the ball was out because it was in. Some umpires do the opposite and say they are not sure, which is what Molina should have said.

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Re: Will Novak make a run for Feds 23 consecutive slam semi record? (11 and counting!

Honestly, with the horrific state of mens tennis (Ferrer with his limited talent being #4 at 30 years old says it all), it is actually not impossible for Novak to achieve that.

But no, I don't think he will. Someone will rosol him like Wawrinka almost did.

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He said "if djokovic had not benefited from the bad call". This means if the line umpire weren't an idiot and call the ball out. Wawrinka hit a FH return to djokovic's feet, djokovic stopped the point and raised his hand signaling he would challenge. If the bad call wasn't made djokovic would have stop playing challenge, get it wrong and Wawrinka would have broken.

Even if the point had continued Wawrinka had a sitter after the great, valid return he hit, so he should win the point.

What Molina did was just stupid because he couldn't be sure the ball was out because it was in. Some umpires do the opposite and say they are not sure, which is what Molina should have said.
dont lie....chair umpire called the ball out before Djokovic even finished his return and he never stopped playing............watch the replay again
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