MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. 1. Nadal, 2. Tomic 3. Murray - Page 14 - MensTennisForums.com
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #196 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 09:59 AM
Registered User
 
Ben.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Age: 28
Posts: 12,897
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by duong View Post
See ? The usual reaction I get ! No understanding whatsoever, I receive the same allergy I have for Nadal "now your opinion and discussion is completely worthless" : pure rejection !

... and even from people who have read my arguments and thoughts for long.

Is it impossible to admit that people can be able to have a rational argumentation AND in the meantime have feelings, which means emotions and irrational ?

My life is made of both of these as, I guess, the life of everyone here

One example of what emotions lead people to (in the thread about "who will win Monte-Carlo final ?") :



Here was my prediction : I think I was not that far from what happened
Honestly, 6-2 6-3 was hardly a far fetched prediction. If the Djokovic from the final set against Berdych showed up, it may well have been reality. As it was, he barely showed up at all.

As you admit, this is quite irrational, baffling in fact. Of course people can put emotions aside and have a rational argument, that is the only way to have a worthwhile argument.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Action Jackson View Post
Excuses.





See what you want to see. Yes, I play Tursunov on clay and he is favourite, no. Classic example of fake humility, then the always injured when he loses. Just cause you can't see why there people that don't like Nadal or have their reasons for doing so. It's not different from Djokovic or Federer, except for the reasons.

Didn't know humble athletes take fake timeouts, stretch the gamesmanship big time, 2 year ranking. It's fine to do that, it's pro sport and within the rules but that's not humility.
No idea how any of what I write is an excuse. I excuse no one's behaviour.

Notice how I didn't refute your other points, only that one. The others are all perfectly reasonable. This is one requires a leap in logic and a specific interpretation of events.

When did Rafa say Tursunov was the favourite? I must have missed that.
Ben. is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #197 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 10:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 11,949
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by hat__boy View Post
Of course people can put emotions aside and have a rational argument, that is the only way to have a worthwhile argument.
yes it's possible that's how people do, there are some die-hard fans in this forum who often have very interesting analyses, sometimes they even know better about their guy than others, that's why I'm often interested in reading them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hat__boy View Post
When did Rafa say Tursunov was the favourite? I must have missed that.
I don't remember him saying that about Tursunov but sometimes he said things which were clearly shocking like one day he was afraid of playing Rochus, that one I'm sure he said it once.

It's possible to "fake humility", however I've come to the conclusion like you that's not Nadal's case.

Although I like to mention that this behavior is not "natural" and comes from his uncle's constant education, which Nadal has said himself in his biography ... but people answer me that anyway we are always a product of our education : yes in a way ... but his uncle's education looks more like a "taming" to me, not like something which helped him to develop himself really, which is why I make the distinction.
duong is offline  
post #198 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 10:10 AM
Registered User
 
Ben.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Age: 28
Posts: 12,897
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orka_n View Post
Why can't you understand that there might be a REASON the majority holds that opinion? I was not lying in my previous post, it is exactly as I said: In my experience, Nadals MTF fans make people dislike Rafa more.
Indeed, but the annoying Rafa fans are so MANY, that is the difference. I can give you 15+ names if you want.
Many of the worst Fedtards like Glenn and Magician are permabanned, so I don't understand why you bring them up. Samanosuke is a rare case because he can actually burn someone using sometimes strange english and many appreciate that and do find him funny. He's currently banned as well though just so you know.

I myself am aware I'm not a model poster in any way but I am certainly not as conceited as many of the trolls on here.
You are right, they are banned. But you can't disagree that they behaved no worse than Start da Game, yet were nowhere near as marginalised as him. He is banned too, I believe. I'm sure I could give you 15 more names too.

The majority are Federer fans, understandably they get riled up by over the top Nadal fans. Thus the majority opinion becomes that Nadal has a terrible fanbase. I haven't seen any different behaviour from Djokovic's fans in the last twelve months than I saw from Nadal fans in 2010. The difference is, Federer fans are happy to see Djokovic beating Nadal.

I hate to discuss this, talking about fans and tards seems so pathetic. I'm just tired of the discrediting of an entire fanbase when they behave no differently than the rest and I frequently read you singling them out.
Ben. is offline  
 
post #199 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 10:45 AM
Registered User
 
Orka_n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 24,561
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by hat__boy View Post
You are right, they are banned. But you can't disagree that they behaved no worse than Start da Game, yet were nowhere near as marginalised as him. He is banned too, I believe. I'm sure I could give you 15 more names too.
Their behavior was indeed on SdG level but then again they are permabanned and somehow SdG is not.
And I'd really like to hear those 15 names you got.
Quote:
The majority are Federer fans, understandably they get riled up by over the top Nadal fans. Thus the majority opinion becomes that Nadal has a terrible fanbase.
So, you think that only because of a few over-the-top Nadaltards, the majority of this tennisforum (including non-fedfans) consider the Nadaltards to be the worst fanbase overall? That is nonsense.
Quote:
I haven't seen any different behaviour from Djokovic's fans in the last twelve months than I saw from Nadal fans in 2010. The difference is, Federer fans are happy to see Djokovic beating Nadal.

I hate to discuss this, talking about fans and tards seems so pathetic. I'm just tired of the discrediting of an entire fanbase when they behave no differently than the rest and I frequently read you singling them out.
I don't expect you to be able to view your own fanbase objectively.

By the way, I'm not saying all Nadalfans are idiots. However I do think that this is the fandom to overall have the most clowns, at least here on MTF. And most agree with me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by darcis_forehand View Post
That is why Murray decided to injure himself and Djokovic, to help Berdych.

Tea of truth:


Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreak4coffee View Post
It is Fabio's world and we are all just living in it
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyV View Post
We should be appreciative of Federer though, because we will never see anything like him again. The fact he can still compete for slams ever after the erosion of his physical skills is really a greater testament to the natural talent he has than the period of time when he was dominating the tour.
Orka_n is offline  
post #200 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 11:01 AM
Registered User
 
Tepasaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Age: 29
Posts: 1,779
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

I hate:
Djokovic
Tomic
Stepanek
Del Potro
Nadal
Almagro
Federer
Murray
Troicki
Tipsarevic
Serbians
Tsonga
Fish

I support purtov45, kondrashov, Nixer, Cazorla, DmitryBond

DTT Title: Cincinatti 2013 w. randy72391
FITD Title: Vienna 2014
PAW Title: Vienna 2010
PAW Entry Ranking 69
Tepasaf is offline  
post #201 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
Forum Umpire:
Gaston Gaudio
 
Action Jackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 124,507
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tepasaf View Post
I hate:
Djokovic
Tomic
Stepanek
Del Potro
Nadal
Almagro
Federer
Murray
Troicki
Tipsarevic
Serbians
Tsonga
Fish
Yes and is this in order. I have to count this stuff.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filo V. View Post
I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
Action Jackson is offline  
post #202 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 11:06 AM
Banned!
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sen'jin Village
Age: 32
Posts: 18,509
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

This thread looks like a place for Nadal haters to have a huge circle jerk.
Topspindoctor is offline  
post #203 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 11:23 AM
Registered User
 
Looner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13,338
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by Topspindoctor View Post
This thread looks like a place for Nadal haters to have a huge circle jerk.
Quote:
I am a hater, deal with it.


The "Who plays tennis?" thread


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Rod Laver
Roger is like a good red wine, he’s getting better with age.
Looner is offline  
post #204 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 12:23 PM
Registered User
 
superslam77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: out of this world
Posts: 6,488
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by Looner View Post
he owned himself

justin bieber is not the best in history.
funk was better than rap.
techno not better than classic rock.

numbers are not everything.
superslam77 is offline  
post #205 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 12:35 PM
Banned!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Paris
Age: 27
Posts: 6,118
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

1 Nadal
2 Djokovic
3 Troicki
4 Murray
5 Fish
6 Tomic
7 Almagro
8 Gasquet
Gagsquet is offline  
post #206 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 12:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 206
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tepasaf View Post
I hate:
Djokovic
Tomic
Stepanek
Del Potro
Nadal
Almagro
Federer
Murray
Troicki
Tipsarevic
Serbians
Tsonga
Fish


You should've just said TOP 10... Plus other Serbians.
stanch is offline  
post #207 of 377 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 04:48 PM
Registered User
 
Featherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 939
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

.
Remarkable Careers

Code:
............2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 now(#188) 
Nadal.........3....1....4....3....1....1...1 
Tomic......................................2!! 
Murray.......13....6....3....1....2....4...3 
Roddick.......6....2....2....4....4....2...4 
Almagro.....................20....8....9...5! 
Federer......14....5....6....5....6....7...6 
Djokovic..........15....1....2....3....3...7 
Fish...................14...13.............8! 
Verdasco.........................12....6...9 
Berdych...........14...13...19...12...10..10 
Tipsarevic.......................19.......11! 
Troicki...................................13! 
Robredo...........11...11....8...11....5..15 
Hewitt........1....3....5...11....8....8 
Soderling..............10...12....7...11 
Monfils.....................17....5...14 
Tsonga......................14...10...15 
Stepanek.....10....9...12....6...14...17 
Davydenko.........10....7...18...20...18 
DelPotro.....................9...17 
Karlovic...............16....7...18 
Blake.............12....8...10 
Ljubicic......8....4....9 
Kiefer........4...17...15 
Coria.........2....7 
Nalbandian...19....8 
Rios..........5...13 
Puerta....................................11 
Connors.......7...18....-.....-...-...13 
Sampras.......8...22....-.....-...-...12 
Agassi.......12...19....-.....-...-...25  
McEnroe......11...27....-.....-...-...33 
Wilander..................................14
...boring monday afternoon
.
.
Featherer is offline  
post #208 of 377 (permalink) Old 05-25-2012, 09:04 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Age: 39
Posts: 1
 
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

1.Wally Masur ' worlds worse commentator and couldnt play
2.Fabio Fognini ' spoilt brat,rich playboy and arrogant
3.Robin Soderling ' just arrogant and rude
4.Nicholas Almagro ' Just dont like him
5.Radek Stepanek ' show off, thinks he's Mr wonderful
6.David Nalbandian ' sore loser and arrogant
7.Filippo Volandri ' worlds worse server and shocking haircut
8.Pat Cash ' hard man to like, didnt like is game
9.Nikolay Davydenko ' shady character, {but i like his wife Irena}
10.Peter Korda ' dont like show offs, just hate the guy

Last edited by Jayz77; 06-03-2012 at 11:21 AM. Reason: editing words
Jayz77 is offline  
post #209 of 377 (permalink) Old 05-25-2012, 09:20 AM
Federer Fan & Dull Hater
 
duarte_a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 11,334
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

1. Nadal
2. Connors
3. Berdych
4. Tomic
5. Simon
6. Stepanek
7. Djokovic
8. Soderling
9. Gulbis
10. Hewitt
duarte_a is offline  
post #210 of 377 (permalink) Old 07-02-2012, 03:30 PM
Registered User
 
Federer&Hingis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 29
Posts: 619
                     
Re: MTF 2012 Most Disliked Players of all time. Update Post #189

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Connors
4. Wilander
5. Rusedski
6. Nalbandian
7. Kuerten
8. Tomic
9. Hewitt
10. Murray

Roger GOATerer 18 > 14
Federer's diehard fan since Hopman Cup 2001.

♨ Shapovalov ♨ Auger-Aliassime ♨ Raonic ♨ Wawrinka ♨
♞ Bouchard ♞ Pospisil ♞ Nishikori ♞ Bacsinszky ♞ Bencic ♞ Dimitrov ♞ Nestor ♞ Goffin ♞ Darcis ♞ Rosol ♞
Schalken - Edberg - Soderling - Hingis - Bartoli - Roddick - Coetzer - Santoro - Rosset - Fish - Blake - Navratilova - B.J.King - Mauresmo

Support Marriage Equality

Last edited by Federer&Hingis; 07-03-2012 at 03:02 AM.
Federer&Hingis is offline  
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome