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Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

Roddick has won 4 titles on grass. His record is 78-19. He played 3 Wimbledon finals, lost all of them to Federer.

Rafter has won 4 titles on grass. His record is 74-25. Reached 2 Wimbledon finals with losses to Sampras and Ivanisevic.

Numbers saying Roddick is clearly better, but I'm not sure about it. Discuss.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

rafter is the man.

roddick was overrated on grass. he didnt beat anybody special in all those queens finals. in fact, mahut gave him a gift in one of the finals there.

excellent topic.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

Rafter on grass. He seemed to be a better matchup for Fed then Roddick ever could be as well for whatever reason. Roddick was better at the USO on faster hardcourts then he was on grass IMO.

Rafter was much better putting pressure on the opponent and his transition to the net and volley skills was 10 times better then Roddick's. That could be the most likely edge to Rafter
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

MTF logic says Roddick has achieved more and therefor must be considered better on grass than Rafter.

All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

mtf logic has no legs.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

Rafter is a bit better than Roddick, roddick sometimes does too much, but not saying that roddick is a bad grass court player.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

Roddick has the bigger serve which explains his results. Rafter was a more natural grass player but Roddick has produced with his serve. Both were close to a title, losing epic 5-set finals.

It's close, since it's also stupid to not include results into the comparison as well. I'd say Rafter edges it but maybe it has something to do with me liking Rafter's game and attitude and disliking that of Roddick

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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

rafter was far more talented. simply a better athlete.

take roddick`s serve away on grass and what does he have left?
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

affirmative general, i do agree with this.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

Yes Roddick has better results but in terms of being a better player of grass courts, it has to be Rafter and by a significant margin. Roddick's grass court results are almost all due to his serve while Rafter relied on his court craft, slice backhand and volleying skills.

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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

finally a serious post from the rich tycoon from australia.

affirmative adrian.

rafter had more on the ball so to speak. he was also a more cerebral player than roddick on grass.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

About the same, Roddick probably had a little more longevity.

For me it doesn't matter if it is the serve or the volleys that make you a good grasscourter.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

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Rafter on grass. He seemed to be a better matchup for Fed then Roddick ever could be as well for whatever reason.
The reason probably has something to do with Fed's being about 17 when they played.

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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

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MTF logic says Roddick has achieved more and therefor must be considered better on grass than Rafter.
Logic just says that too.
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Re: Better grass court player: Rafter or Roddick?

My friend, Rafter will be the right answer around because this is a weak are as we know from MTF. No, sorry, it's the weakest era ever.


Seriously, I think they are about same. Roddick was very good grass player as well when he played that few good year.

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