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Federer: H2H record vs. Nadal not important

"I respect it. I think he's doing great against me," 16-time Grand Slam champion Federer said after his 6-7 (5), 6-2, 7-6 (5), 6-4 defeat in the Australian Open semifinals. "It is what it is. At the end I care about my titles, if I'm happy or not as a person. Head-to-heads for me, I mean, are not the most important. If I beat Andre [Agassi] 10 times in a row or Lleyton [Hewitt] many times in a row, at the end of the day I don't care. I remember the matches on that given day, that I played well against them or not, and I don't remember the head-to-head that much. All I know is that we've played many times, and either comes my way or his way. Rallies have gone a little bit more his way obviously."

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Roger is clearly worried about his legacy, seeing how he is trying to downplay the H2H. If he is sincerely okay with it, then good. But I have a feeling that a competitor on his level is really burning inside because of it. It will definitely matter a lot more to fans of the game than he is saying it matters to him.
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Roger is clearly worried about his legacy, seeing how he is trying to downplay the H2H. If he is sincerely okay with it, then good. But I have a feeling that a competitor on his level is really burning inside because of it. It will definitely matter a lot more to fans of the game than he is saying it matters to him.
How does Roddick feel about his H2H with Fed?

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Re: Federer: H2H record vs. Nadal not important

It matters quite a bit, since Nadal isn't some guy that you just meet in the third round of a grand slam every now and then. He knows it, his fans know it, and the tennis world has taken it as a fact too.

Nothing wrong with it, it just proves that you can't distinguish a certain player as best of all time since none has been throughly dominant against their main rivals.

Only guy that has an undisputable resume is perhaps Nadal on clay. Beyond that, there are a lot of asterisks from this generation.

In the end perhaps the most important will be that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic will go into the history books among the Top 5-6 players of all time. (IMO).
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If Nadal wins 4 or 5 slams more, specially in an era with more opposition than Federer's one, then his h2h will be very relevant. This is the main reason why FedFads are so terrified when they see the possibility of Nadal taking Slams in a good pace in the next years. Sometimes I feel sorry for them. Fear is a hell of feeling to have.

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More opposition than Federer? Anyone who claims that should have their brain examined. The investigation will probably find there isn't one to be checked.
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Fedtardism is when you believe that Roddick, a handicapped Hewitt, an Argentinian burguer eater, a Russian playboy and a teenager Nadal are a great oppossition

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Re: Federer: H2H record vs. Nadal not important

head to head records certainly matter in slams.

fed would probably be sitting on 24 slams or more if the clay warrior had not come along.

similarly nadal would have 5 more slams had fed and nole not come along.

and no telling how many more slams nole would have already had had fed and nadal not existed.

so head to head matters greatly in slams.
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More opposition than Federer? Anyone who claims that should have their brain examined. The investigation will probably find there isn't one to be checked.
So you say winning titles against the likes of Roddick and Hewitt is harder than winning against Djokovic, Murray, Berdych, Soderling, Tsonga....?
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So you say winning titles against the likes of Roddick and Hewitt is harder than winning against Djokovic, Murray, Berdych, Soderling, Tsonga....?
Roddick and Hewitt over Berdych, Soderling and Tsonga, worse than Nole and equal with Murray.
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question:

does anyone here thinks federer would trade just 1 of his GS titles for a positive h2h against nadal?

yeah, didn't think so

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How does Roddick feel about his H2H with Fed?

I am sure Roddick would not care even a tiny bit about his H2H if he could win some more slams instead.

If Roddick had an option of lets say lose the next 10 matches to Federer or win 1 Grand slam vs. Win the next 10 matches vs Fed but 0 GS. Which do you think he would take... or any other player for that matter.

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If Nadal wins 4 or 5 slams more, specially in an era with more opposition than Federer's one, then his h2h will be very relevant. This is the main reason why FedFads are so terrified when they see the possibility of Nadal taking Slams in a good pace in the next years. Sometimes I feel sorry for them. Fear is a hell of feeling to have.
cant speak for them but i for one want nadal to stop winning GS because he's a disgrace to tennis. his persona and his style style are disgusting. every match he wins sinks tennis to new depths.

the sooner he retires, the better it is for the sport

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