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Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing". Takes shot at Djokovic

So in Rafa's presser unsurprisingly he was asked a lot of questions about Murray (as there are so many British journalists!). Interesting response:

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Q. Did you stay up late last night watching the match the other match?

RAFAEL NADAL: I watched the second set, beginning of the third I went for dinner, and I came back after the 4-1 in the fourth and I watched the rest of the match.

Q. What did you think of it?

RAFAEL NADAL: I think the second set was fantastic. Was really impressive level from both of them. First set I didn’t see, but the fourth seems like Andy was very tired. He wasn’t ready to play the fourth, and Nole was much more fresh.

The fifth seems like Andy was very tired, too, because Novak have the control of the situation. But in the 5-3, Andy break with Love-40, so after he had fantastic chance. With a 5-4, 15-40, he little bit of mistake with the forehand in the return on the deuce on the 15-40; 30-40 was an amazing point. Djokovic finished with unbelievable forehand down the line.

Another point for Andy, big mistake to the net for him with his backhand. He didn’t miss not one backhand during all the match, and he missed in that moment. It was a tough moment for him.

After when that happens, playing for four hours forty-five, it’s normal you will be in trouble in the next game; Novak plays well and match was done.

It was an emotional match, and I enjoyed watching on TV.

Q. Andy said last night that he thought he had closed the gap on the top three. Do you feel there has been a little to choose between yourself, Roger, Novak, and Andy now?

RAFAEL NADAL: He never was very far. That’s the true. He’s playing well. He always played fantastic. He’s unlucky not to win a Grand Slam yet.

Yesterday he lost another very good opportunity, in my opinion. Because winning two sets to one, winning the third set, probably losing a lot chances, and then winning with 7-6 — to win a tournament like this and to play against player like Djokovic, you cannot start the fourth set like this.

It’s the moment to play with more intensity than ever, not start with 3-Love down and two breaks in five minutes. That way you lose the match. You want to win the tournament, you cannot start — you can lose — the other can beat you, but you cannot lose in the beginning.


But he’s playing well. He’s playing fantastic. He deserve to win a Grand Slam. He was unlucky at the end, but the only negative thing for me in his match is the beginning of the fourth.

When the other have more doubts, is in really trouble, you make for the opponent easier than what should be, no? That’s my feeling.

For the rest, he can be No. 1 at the end of the season. I don’t have any doubt on that. The level is there. When you are able to play how many, five Grand Slams in a row playing semifinals or final, it’s only a mental thing.


The rest of the things are there. He started the season another time playing very well winning a tournament, playing semifinals here, and few points away to win against No. 1 player of the world.

He’s ready for everything.
Interesting for him to come out and say it's a mental thing but he's right. Murray could have won that match yesterday but just faltered at crucial moments again. His attitude in the 4th set really let him down. Even if we was tired and wanted to be fresh for the 5th he should have made sure he at least made Djokovic serve it out and got to serve first himself in the 5th - that's a huge advantage and he knows that... I also find it impressive how Nadal can remember the points so well - I find it impressive enough when players do it with their own matches but to do it with someone else's too - quite a memory these guys have.

The rest of the pre-final presser is pretty good - http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/...725301760.html - Rafa seems relaxed and again unsurprisingly says he'll fight all the way - doesn't know if it'll be enough. Thinks the one day less rest is perhaps unfair but not crazy unfair like the US Open where you have no rest at all and dismisses the idea that the balls are too heavy making it difficult to make winners by joking that it doesn't look like Novak's having trouble making winners!
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

Yeah, but in tennis, "mental thing" is oftentimes everything. Just ask Federer when he plays against Nadal or Roddick failing to convert one of his set points that would have given him a 2-0 lead against Federer at Wimbledon. When you reach top 5, top 10, you're already playing at a very high level and clearly can compete with the best of the best but it's the "mental thing" that separates the guys who can actually win grandslams from those who can't.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

That word "just" covers a potentially huge gap.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

Nadal always had the right approach to competing. No surprises here.

Everyone else is just catching up in that department.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

Murray is not very skilled at strategically dropping sets yet, but Fed and Nole are pretty experienced with it. Nadal doesn't really do that sort of thing which has at times helped him but also costs him a lot with Nole.

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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

Speaking of mental thing. Azarenka's mentality >>>>>>>>>> Mugrays.

She had a sluggish start 0-3, came back and finished the match 6-3, 6-0 and baggeled the erroneous Sharpaova.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

No one else notice what he said about Djokovic's fitness?

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Q. Novak has been having some trouble with breathing in the last two matches. Do you think it'll be a factor tomorrow and something you can take advantage of?

RAFAEL NADAL: It's funny, no? I saw the match yesterday on the TV she show on the Channel 7 when he was in the fifth set moving fantastically well, and they show images from two hours fifty before and seems like he was destroyed. Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition.

So is difficult to imagine that he has these problems. I don't know.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

^ LOL. He is one to talk. What hypocrisy.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

Uncle Toni told him to say these things. Uncle Toni is preparing the mind games ASAP to increase Nadal's % of winning the title. Clever this Toni...
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

Well he's right on Djokovic's fitness - he looked better after 4 hours than he did after 2 hours - it's not controversial to say that that's funny & that Nadal doesn't know about what problems Novak has. Don't think he's insinuating anything strange - but glad he's aware of the fact that just because Novak looks like he's on the ropes doesn't mean he won't still be hitting winners and looking great half an hour later... It's the same as Murray clutching his leg all the time & then still blasting away opponents.

Think he's complementary of both Novak & Andy in that presser & seems in a good place mentally. Even if he loses tomorrow I don't think it'll be a big blow like say Wimbledon was. Hope Lendl talked to Andy about that 4th set - Nadal's spot on - you need to make your opponent earn it rather than wilt away.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

It's clear he's insinuating something with this statement: "They show images from two hours fifty before and seems like he was destroyed. Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition." Come on, take the Nadal goggles off and see that statement for what it really means
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Agree that is in mental thing, but not always, maybe he was just unlucky, before with mental thing i think it was also his style of counter-punching and being to passive against truly best guys you can´t be passive and in defense all the time, but it seems like he is playing more agressive, hope he will stay that way and only thing missing will be to improove his mental toughness. He has no problems with mental toughness outside slams i think- his record in F of Masters 1000 is 8-1, the only one he lost was against Rafa in 2009 IW in very windy conditions, so really his mental toughness seems to be only problem, also his stamina-physicall training are good enough to play 5 sets, he has turn around matches from being down 0:2 on sets multiple times so really pls Andy do something with your self-believe and then it will all click. BTW i think Nole was in some mental crisis like ANdy in 2009,10, where those losses to Rafa on clay crushed him and than his serve, everything was pathetic and he wasn´t able in crucial moments take his game to another level. Novak´s medicine was DC, we can speak about gluten-free whatever but confidence came back with DC. Andy needs something to boost his confidence and maybe this SF match against Nole could have been that one, pitty he didn´t make it.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

So why did Rafa let Nole breadstick him in the 4th at USO final after winning the 3rd set? Nadal look like he was on the ascendency especially after Novak called an MTO. Yet the Serb clubbed him in the 4th.

At least Murray didn't give up at 5-2 in the 5th and actually took 2 sets of Nole. If he loses to Djoko tomorrow these comments will make him look like a prized idiot.
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Re: Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing"

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That's why he is the most hated player.
In the deluded tiny world of MTF maybe - pretty sure he's not the most hated when you look at the crowd response to him. He's the most popular after Fed & the rest like Novak, Murray etc. are a long way back on that front. It pains people to admit it but outside the internet he's one of the 2 superstars in the game - clearly the public can live with his "untalented" game.

I think Rafa is a bit sceptical about Novak's physical issues & to be honest I'd rather he'd just said "I don't know" and moved on especially as people always question his own injuries - think he just talks too much as usual. Think everyone was a bit sceptical though yesterday - even the commentators - how can allergies affect you and then suddenly go away so fast? Personally think that's just Novak's style - not done deliberately to put off his opponent, but just like Andy likes to moan, Novak likes to look at death's door and then roar back...
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Nadal takes shot at Djokovic

Nadal on Djokovic,I miss that fake humbleness

"It's funny, no? I saw the match yesterday on the TV show on the channel seven when he was in the fifth set moving fantastically well, and they show images from two hours fifty (minutes) before and seems like he was destroyed," the 10-times grand slam champion said on Saturday.

"Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition. So it is difficult to imagine that he has these problems. I don't know."

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/28012012/...ead-final.html
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